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  • From: Rolf Furuli <furuli AT online.no>
  • To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] questions, reliable evidence, 'stand' and 'said'
  • Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 21:28:37 +0200

Dear Randall,

We cannot discuss anything before you have clearly stated your definition of the imperfective aspect and answered my questions regarding your definition of the perfective one. If you do not want to answer my questions regarding the YIQTOLs and WAYYIQTOLs in Ezekiel 1, 10, and Nehemiah 3, that is your privilege. But you should answer my questions regarding aspect:

1. Can both the perfective and imperfective make a *part* of an action or state visible?

2. Can both aspects make the details of an event visible?

3. Can both aspects include both the beginning and the end of an action or a state?

4. Can both aspects express conative and resultative situations?

5. Can both aspects make visible apart of the action after the beginning and before the end?


Best regards,

Rolf Furuli
University of Oslo





Thank you for your response, and there are many interesting
texts worthy of discussion, and even some questionable
English translations, but it doesn't not deal with
the original question and spins away.

So, both in
both the state expressed by the participle and by
the WAYYIQTOL R intersects E after the beginning
and before the end. So how can this WAYYIQTOL be
perfective?>>

You, not me, claimed that this Gen 41 cannot be
perfective. So you need to explain how it is different from
perfective `amad examples that look similar.
See the original post in this thread.

How can, e.g., 2Chr 20:20, 2 Samuel 20:11, and 12,
2 Ki 2:7 be perfective, but Gen 41 cannot be perfective?

Then we can deal with vayyomer.

braxot
Randall

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