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- From: George Athas <George.Athas AT moore.edu.au>
- To: B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards
- Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 10:44:54 +1000
This whole discussion seems to be divided into two camps: (1) those who
propose that the ancients had the same sense of 'history' as we moderns do;
and (2) those who propose that the ancients had a different sense of
'history' to us moderns.
Firstly, our modern sense of history has only really arisen since the
printing press made the dissemination and preservation of information
commonplace. The rise of the newspaper and journalism also helped
considerably in preserving memories of factual events. Prior to that, history
was often a creative enterprise, including memories of factual events;
pre-scientific hypotheses about the past, such as aetiologies; retrojection,
whereby the past was described like the present; propaganda, whereby the past
was moulded to a desired shape; dramatic techniques, to make it memorable and
entertaining; and many other phenomena.
In terms of Esarhaddon's vassal treaties: I'd say it was a fairly common
notion that if an underling failed in their treaty obligations that they
would be cursed, and blessed if they met them. The notion is really not that
unique. So, the blessing/cursing concept of Deuteronomy could come from just
about any time - Bronze Age right through to Hellenistic Era. What is
interesting, however, is to compare the specific blessings and curses and see
where the closest parallels for Deuteronomy are from. This, of course,
doesn't give us a date for Deuteronomy, but it could be one brick in a larger
argument to say that Deuteronomy could be from the era of its closest
parallel, or even slightly after it.
And no, Gabe has not mistaken the force of the historical task.
Regards,
GEORGE ATHAS
Moore Theological College (Sydney, Australia)
www.moore.edu.au
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Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards
, (continued)
- Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards, James Read, 05/18/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards, K Randolph, 05/18/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards,
Gabe Eisenstein, 05/19/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards, James Read, 05/19/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards, K Randolph, 05/19/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards, Tory Thorpe, 05/19/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards, Gabe Eisenstein, 05/19/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards, Tory Thorpe, 05/19/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards,
Gabe Eisenstein, 05/19/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards,
James Read, 05/19/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards,
George Athas, 05/19/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards,
K Randolph, 05/20/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards,
George Athas, 05/20/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards,
K Randolph, 05/20/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards, George Athas, 05/20/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards, K Randolph, 05/21/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards,
K Randolph, 05/20/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards,
George Athas, 05/20/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards,
K Randolph, 05/20/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards,
George Athas, 05/19/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards,
James Read, 05/19/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards,
K Randolph, 05/19/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards,
George Athas, 05/19/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards,
K Randolph, 05/20/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards,
George Athas, 05/20/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards, K Randolph, 05/20/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards,
George Athas, 05/20/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards,
K Randolph, 05/20/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards,
George Athas, 05/19/2009
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