Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Bryant J. Williams III" <bjwvmw AT com-pair.net>]

Dear John,

I think what you are asking is, Does the dagesh change the basic meaning of 
the
root whether it is two or three consonant root?

If I remember correctly, the dagesh is just a symbol of reduplication for the
BGDKPT consonants added by the Masoretes. It was not in the consonantal text
itself. That  being the case, then I would think that the context, and context
alone, would indicate whether one is dealing with non-interrogative,
interrogative, etc. It most cases, the meaning would probably be obvious. 
Since
Karl, et al, have read the Tanakh without the Massoretic pointing, they would
have a better understanding of this (even when there is some disagreement over
the accuracy of that pointing).

Rev. Bryant J. Williams III
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brak" <Brak AT neo.rr.com>
To: "Yitzhak Sapir" <yitzhaksapir AT gmail.com>
Cc: <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Any meaning to the Dagesh?


>
>
> Yitzhak Sapir wrote:
> > I don't understand.  First you insist on complete orthographical 
> > similarity.
> > Then, you go ahead and remove prefixes as if they don't matter at all.
> > You refuse to further elaborate on your question saying you won't validate
> > your question, but don't understand why we don't understand the question.
> > Maybe you should look to the queen or her king to give you the answer.
> > Or is that not good enough?
> I am still insisting on graphic similarity - I am just narrowing the
> focus down to just the base of the word - ignoring the prefix and suffix
> morpheme.
>
> I have been elaborating quite a bit - trying to ask the same question
> almost 100 different ways - modifying it, changing the terms I'm using,
> etc. Then you complain when I modify the question!!!
>
> The first problem is that you don't believe me.
> When I say you haven't answered my question - instead of arguing as to
> whether you answered it, try believing me.
>
> So with the example:
> <H:A/$OM"R> vs <HA/$.OM"R>
>
> The "base" parts are :
> <$OM"R> vs <$.OM"R>
> They both have the exact same letters.
> They both have the exact same vowels.
> One has a dagesh - one doesn't.
> But they have the same meaning: Qal Participle Masculine Singular
>
> Is there ever a case that a word will have all of the above criteria,
> except that the words have different meaning?
>
>
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