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- From: David Kummerow <farmerjoeblo AT hotmail.com>
- To: pporta AT oham.net, b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Replaying
- Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:57:34 +1100
Hi Pere,
I thought we were discussing nominal and adjectival gender-marking and Isaac's contention that it is instead person-marking (ie that the morphemes refer to the non-speech-act participant)? You do realise that you've now changed the discussion here to *verbal inflections*?! Verbal inflections are of a different order to nominal and adjectival gender-marking, and is sometimes diachronically related to independent personal pronouns. In regards to the BH suffix verb this is quite likely the historical source of the inflections. There is no problem with analysing verbal inflectional morphemes as simultaneously indexing gender and person (or number, for that matter). I maintain that this is *not* the case with nominal and adjectival gender-number marking, which does *not* index person. Neither Isaac nor yourself have provided actual textual examples demonstrating your position, and, crucially, have not provided the theoretical linguistic argument explaining why the standard linguistic theory regarding nominal and adjectival gender-marking as it relates to BH is better explained as instances of person-marking.
Regards,
David Kummerow.
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I may agree with you in a general way.
Indeed, while a final -T may refer both to male ("amarta" Jr 45:3) and female ("amart" 2Sa 6:22) second person singular...what about such words as "YFR:)FH", she feared (Jr 3:8), where final -H
is both marker of gender and of person?
Is it something merely
coincidental, a hazardous or chancy case?
Pere Porta
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Re: [b-hebrew] Explain it please
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Re: [b-hebrew] Explain it please,
David Kummerow, 12/10/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Explain it please,
Isaac Fried, 12/10/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Explain it please,
David Kummerow, 12/10/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Explain it please,
Isaac Fried, 12/11/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Explain it please,
David Kummerow, 12/11/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Question, pporta, 12/11/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Question, David Kummerow, 12/11/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Question, pporta, 12/12/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Question, David Kummerow, 12/12/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Replaying, pporta, 12/12/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Replaying, David Kummerow, 12/12/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Replaying, pporta, 12/13/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Replaying, Isaac Fried, 12/13/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Replaying, pporta, 12/13/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Replaying, Isaac Fried, 12/17/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Replaying, pporta, 12/18/2007
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- Re: [b-hebrew] Replaying, pporta, 12/20/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Replaying, Isaac Fried, 12/26/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Explain it please,
David Kummerow, 12/11/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Explain it please,
Isaac Fried, 12/11/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Explain it please,
David Kummerow, 12/10/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Explain it please,
Isaac Fried, 12/10/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Explain it please,
David Kummerow, 12/10/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Question, Isaac Fried, 12/12/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Question, Stoney Breyer, 12/12/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Question, David Kummerow, 12/12/2007
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