Biblical Hebrew Forum

[<pporta AT oham.net>]

  What do you mean by "Either I agree with your statement about the inner 
structure of the second type of Imperative or not"? You have to agree with 
me, how can you otherwise explain the structure of RIB and RIBAH?

  Better leave the "paragogic" letters business to the dictionary readers.

  Stressing the 'RI' of RIBAH I hear 'please fight', while stressing the 
'BAH' I hear 'a young woman'. Stressing the 'QU' of QUMI I hear 'rise girl', 
while stressing 'MI' I hear 'my rising'. 


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  Then you do not accept that a form like "RYB" (Mic 6:1) and a form like 
"RYBH" (Psa 35:1) are the same thing ---- Qal Imperative, 2nd person singular 
masculine---  with the only difference that the latter has a paragogic heh 
added to the word found in Mic 6:1?



  Pere

  Barcelona (Spain)




    So,
    1. Paragogic heh all grammars and dictionaries tell about.... does not 
exist in Hebrew?
    2. Either I agree with your statement about the inner structure of the 
second type of Imperative or not... you do not answer to my question on the 
stress place within this type of Imperatives: are they always oxytone? And if 
not... which are the cases when they are paroxytone?

    Pere Porta
    Barcelona (Spain)


      The middle vowel of the QAL imperatives forms you mention is a personal 
pronoun referring the the person ordered. In this, the vowel 'I' is the 
essential part of HI), and the vowel 'U' is the essential part of HU), gender 
and number independently. Often 'I' is reduced to 'E', and 'U' to 'O'. Thus, 
QUM = Q-HU)-M, SIM = S-HI)-M, $EB = $-HI)-B, XOG = X-HU)-G. Addressing a 
woman you add for clarity of reference an extra HI) at the end to say 
KUMI=K-HU)-M-HI), and addressing a group you add an extra HU) at the end to 
say KUMU = K-HU)-M-HU).

      Addressing an important person, and assuming a pleading attitude, an 
extra reverential HI), you', is added at the end, as when the elders of 
Israel respectfully and beseechingly address $MUEL by SIMAH = SIM-HI). 

      There is, of course, no "paragogic" letters in Hebrew words.




      Isaac Fried, Boston University



      On Sep 24, 2007, at 12:56 AM, <pporta AT oham.net> <pporta AT oham.net> wrote:


        There are some Imperative forms in the Bible that consist of three 
letters 
        of which the middle one is yud, which are, so to say, normal. I mean 
for 
        example LYN (Jdg 19:9) or &YM (Gn 24:2).


        But sometimes this type of Imperative takes a paragogic heh as in 
&YMH (1Sa 
        8:5) or $YTH (Ps 9:21) or RYBH (Ps 35:1)


        I'm wondering: as regards these latter, are these words as a rule 
always 
        oxytone?


        Pere Porta
        Barcelona (Spain)




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