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  • From: davidfentonism AT aim.com
  • To: scottanderin1 AT hotmail.com, b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] dying you will die
  • Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 10:32:42 -0400

You make a keen observation about the tree of life. I think, also, in light
of the fact that Adam died under 1000 years after he was created is proof
that eating from the tree of life was not necessary to a long life at that
time as seen by his immediate descendants. I haven't seen any compelling
reasons for the 'confusion' about the conflict in the verse but I haven't
read most of them.

Thanks for your insightful remarks,
David Fenton
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Gal. 27-29: For as many as have had a tevilah into Moshiach have clothed
yourselves with Moshiach. There is not Yehudi nor Yevani (Greek), there is
not eved (servant) nor ben chorin (freedman), there is not zachar (male) nor
nekevah (female), for you are all echad in Moshiach Yehoshua/Yeshua. And, if
you belong to Moshiach (YESHAYAH 53:10), then you are of the ZERAH of Avraham
Avinu, you are yoreshim (heirs) according to the havtachah (promise).
-----Original Message-----
From: scottanderin1 AT hotmail.com
To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 2:24 PM
Subject: [b-hebrew] dying you will die

David,
I appreciate your response, and the quote. I have heard this explanation of
“in the day” before, and I think it is a good one. And it may be all that was
intended by what God said. But I don’t think we can escape the fact that they
were also banned from the one tree which God said would give them eternal
life, were they to eat from it. And if you lose access to life, you either
gain death, or maintain your course with it(as I have proposed). And as far
as we know, the banishment happened in the same 24 hour day. So perhaps both
were intended. It wouldn’t be the last time in scripture where there would be
dual meanings. Either way, I think either one or both of these are very
acceptable explanations, and I am confused as to why the verse causes a
conflict in believing that God does what he says he will do.

Scott McAliley

David had written:
Dear Scott,

My commentary here is indirectly related to your inquiry and you may or may
not consider it as you evaluate the more specific replies to your query.
Anton Chekov wrote, “No psychologist should pretend to understand what he
does not understand... Only fools and charlatans know everything and
understand nothing.” I contend Chekov's quote is analogous to the "experts"
you allude to. At any rate, I will await the responses you seek with interest
but in the mean time let me suggest that a day is 1000 years for Hashem and
1000 years is a day. Thus, Adam & Hawaah (Eve) did die within a "day" as
neither reached 100 years of life. Neither do we know at what age Hashem
created them.

I hope you don't mind the slightly off-target remark too much.

Shalom,
David Fenton

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