Biblical Hebrew Forum

[Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu>]

It is probably only a slip of pen, but in Genesis 12:3 ("And I will  
bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee") there  
are many blessers but only one curser. Blessers has two successive  
suffixes (attached personal pronouns), as in English, but curser=curs 
+er has only one, as in English.
Isaac Fried, Boston University

On Jan 24, 2007, at 7:26 AM, Chris Gummer wrote:

> Thanks Kelton!
>
>
>
>   _____
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> From: kgraham0938 AT comcast.net [mailto:kgraham0938 AT comcast.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, 24 January 2007 1:27 AM
> To: Chris Gummer
> Subject: RE: [b-hebrew] Genesis 12:3
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>
>
> Normally in English we think of participles expressing the idea of  
> a verb
> "presently doing something."
>
>
>
> Like And they did not know that Joseph was listening in Genesis 42:43.
> i.e.Joseph was presently listening.
>
>
>
> But in both Hebrew & Greek the participle can function that way and  
> it can
> be used as an adjective describing somebody.  Such as in Judges  
> 1:24, the
> participle hashomerim (guards) should be translated as "and those  
> who were
> guarding (or spying) saw a man coming from the city."
>
>
>
> Likewise with Genesis 12:3, the plural piel participle is  
> describing who God
> will bless.  Namely, "those who bless you."  And those who curse  
> you (also
> piel participle) I will curse.
>
>
>
> --
> Kelton Graham
> KGRAHAM0938 AT comcast.net
>
>
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "Chris Gummer" <chrisgumms AT hotmail.com>
>
> Kelton,
>
>
>
> Thanks for the parsing help. But where does "those who" come from?  
> Why isn't
> it just "blessing you"? Is it just implied or am I missing  
> something about
> the participle form?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris Gummer.
>
>
>
>
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> From: kgraham0938 AT comcast.net [mailto:kgraham0938 AT comcast.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, 23 January 2007 4:46 AM
> To: Chris Gummer; b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 12:3
>
>
>
> The 2ms suffix should be taken as an object to the participle.   
> Suffixes on
> nouns are possesive and on verbs they are objective.
>
>
>
> That is why it should be translated "those who bless you."  By the  
> way it is
> a piel participle masculine plural construct with a 2ms suffix.
>
>
>
> --
> Kelton Graham
> KGRAHAM0938 AT comcast.net
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>
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "Chris Gummer" <chrisgumms AT hotmail.com>
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> >
> >
> > In Genesis 12:3, M:BFR:KEYKA, appears to be often translated as  
> > "those who
>
> > bless you".
> >
> >
> >
> > However, all I see is a participle form of BRK with a possessive 2ms
> suffix.
> > What is the correct parsing and why is it translated as "those who  
> > bless
> > you"?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Chris Gummer.
> >
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