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  • From: Shoshanna Walker <rosewalk AT concentric.net>
  • To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] "Desire of Women" in Heb. Text of Dan. 11:37
  • Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 22:36:57 -0500

When I first read this query, according to the Hebrew, including modern Hebrew, that I know, I intuitively 'knew' that "chemdat nashim" did not refer to "the desire of women", since "chamud" or "chamuda" in modern Hebrew, refers to someone who is desirable, ie "chamud" is not a noun, but an adjective (except in modern Hebrew slang). Then when I looked it up in the translations that I use, this was confirmed. It is Rashi, among others, who teaches that Daniel is referring to Israel - and our Sages are authorities in this regard, and they teach according to historical context.

"He will not give consideration to the G-d of his (Israel's) ancestors nor to the desirable among women (Israel), nor will he give consideration to any god, for he will aggrandize himself above everything" makes more sense than to say that Daniel is referring to a deity worshipped by women - by which women? Israelite women??? Which deity was that? This verse is speaking about a rebellious king, who rebels against G-d and Israel.


Shoshanna



It's not "the desire of women" - it's "The most desirable among
women", and Daniel is referring to Israel

Shoshanna

I would think that since the verse starts "and he will not pay
attention to the
gods of his ancestors" and ends with "nor will he pay attention to any gods
because he will boast over all" that the middle portion of the verse would
translate as "and concerning the [thing/one] desired by women" and would
contextually refer to a deity worshipped by women.

--
James W Bennett
jimb AT tara-lu.com
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