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  • From: Harold Holmyard <hholmyard AT ont.com>
  • To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Hos 6:4 (was The Pesach prohibition )
  • Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 12:43:13 -0500

Vadim Cherny wrote:


HH: Perhaps this is the source of your problem.
The verse does not say that the bread is in the
oven. It simply says there is no need to heat the
oven while the bread is getting ready to bake. One
does not knead the dough while it is in the oven
either.

They are all adulterers, like an oven heated by the baker who ceaseth to
stir from kneading of the dough until it is humtzato.
"adulterers like an oven" surely makes no sense. More plausibly, here is
poetic transposition, and Hosea means, "they are adulterers like the baker."
The baker does nothing while the dough is in the oven, and Hosea accuses the
people of similarly abandoning their duties.

HH: Here is the NIV translation:

Hos. 7:4 They are all adulterers, burning like an oven whose fire the baker need not stir from the kneading of the dough till it rises.


HH: The baker does nothing while the kneaded dough is rising, except that normally he heats the oven. That's what he does not need to do in Hosea 7:4.


In any case, the dough is in the oven, and does not leaven anymore, but is
baked. (Any woman here on the list who ever tried to bake?) "from kneading
until humtzato" cannot mean "from kneading until leavening", that's absurd.
It could only mean, "from kneading until being baked."


HH: I have made bread. There is a kneading process, and afterwards the dough is left to rise. Those are two distinct steps taken before the dough is placed in the oven. See the step about the dough left sitting in order to rise at the end of the following tutorial:

http://jansdough.janktheproofer.com/kneadbreaddough.htm

Yours,
Harold Holmyard




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