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  • From: Shoshanna Walker <rosewalk AT concentric.net>
  • To: "K Randolph" <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>, <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] The Pesach prohibition - baked, not leavened bread
  • Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 20:16:12 -0500

It is all about fermenting, fermentation, including re the wine

Shoshanna




When you say that hmtz refers to souring, that's merely a presumption. The
root cells hm-mtz are distinct in other words - hemer, matzot, lehem. That
cannot be a coincidence.
The translation "leaven" doesn't square with several other instances I
enumerated in the original post. Particularly, Hos7:4 about bad baker who
ceases to watch the dough until it becomes hmtz in hot oven. The
conventional translational "leavened" is absurd. Dough does not leaven in
hot oven, but is baked.
You need to re-read the account of Pesach. Hebrew did not bake the bread
when they left Egypt, but sun-roasted it on the way. The bread, therefore,
was specifically not baked. There is no implication about it being leavened
or not.
Wine is described as hometz, not hametz. The difference is there: hometz is
something that makes something else hametz. Wine is not used as leavening
agent. Considering another name for wine, hmr - hemer, hmtz - hometz could
only mean "hot, pressing." That's by the way, exactly how the wine is called
in Russian, lit., "heating drink."

Vadim Cherny


The meaning of XMC refers to sourness, sourness in both taste and
outlook on life, not to baking except the old word in many languages
is that bread that is "soured" is bread that has yeast in it. That is
still in English referring to sourdough bread.

Concerning the original Passover, the people were told to leave in
haste, meaning that any bread that was taken along had to be baked
right away, there was no time for it to become soured, i.e. have the
yeast ferment the bread.

Other things are listed as soured as well, such as vinegar and mash
that has fermented in a silo.

Karl W. Randolph.



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