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["Steve Miller" <smille10 AT sbcglobal.net>]

Yonah,
Where are you are getting רש from in Dan. 11:22?
I am referring to נְגִיד בְּרִֽית׃ nageed brit. 
Thanks,
-Steve Miller
Detroit
www.voiceinwilderness.info
 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:b-hebrew-
> bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Yonah Mishael
> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 12:17 AM
> To: B-Hebrew
> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Daniel 11:22
> 
> Saying "prince of a covenant" might be a little stilted. We need to
> remember that שר also means "minister." I think a "covenanted
> minister" or a "minister of a covenant" is much better English and
> also takes away the apparent messianic flavor of the title.
> 
> שלום
> Yonah
> 
> On 8/30/06, Steve Miller <smille10 AT sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > John,
> > I can't see any way that "and also prince of covenant" could refer to
> the
> > Messiah. This prince of a covenant is swept away and broken by the
> > contemptible person of v21.  The "antichrist" (i.e. the little horn of
> Dan
> > 8:9) does not do that to the Messiah.
> >
> > If the contemptible person in v21 is the little horn of Dan 8:9, then "a
> > prince of a covenant" who is broken by him, should be someone that
> > antichrist made a covenant with, and then double-crossed. This thought
> is
> > continued in v23.
> >
> > It may be that "prince of a covenant" refers back to the prince who
> makes
> > the 7-yr covenant in Dan 9:26-27. The words for prince and covenant are
> the
> > same in both Dan 9:26-27 & 11:22. If that is the case, then the
> contemptible
> > person in v21 is not antichrist, but some other contemptible person who
> > becomes a king, like the king in 11:16-20.
> >
> > -Steve Miller
> > Detroit
> > www.voiceinwilderness.info
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: John B. Senterfitt Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 1:35 PM
> > >
> > > Seeing as how I am quite new to this endeavor I would appreciate it if
> I
> > > am not acting according to b-hebrew protocol, that you let me know.
> > >
> > > And so, assuming I am ok, I will go ahead and ask my question.
> > >
> > > Is there any conceivable way that Daniel 11:22 and the last statement
> > > "also prince of covenant" could be in reference to Messiah?
> > >
> > > I know the verses before and after are obviously referring to the
> > > antichrist but could it be that verse 22 is a nugget so easily
> overlooked?
> > > John B. Senterfitt
> >
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