Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Yonah Mishael" <yonahmishael AT gmail.com>]

Liz,
I have read that many of the details about the king returning and
meeting his end are not correct in relation to the demise of Antiochus
IV. Is there anything new that helps to bring the end of Daniel 11
into agreement with the historical accounts of Antiochus IV Epiphanes'
last campaign and death?

Thanks,
Yonah

On 8/29/06, Lisbeth S. Fried <lizfried AT umich.edu> wrote:
> Dear John,
> Interesting that you should ask, I'm just now sitting here studying these
> verses in preparation for a course on the Dead Sea Scrolls.
> In Daniel 11, the king of the south is the king of Egypt, Ptolemy I-VI. The
> King of the North is the King of the Seleucid Empire, variously Antiochus
> I-IV and Seleucus I-II.
> Daniel 11:10-19 describes the reign of Antiochus III.
> Daniel 11:20 refers to the short reign of Seleucus II, the son of Antiochus
> III.
> Dan. 11:21 refers to Antiochus IV's usurpation of power from Demetrius, the
> son of Seleucus II.
> Dan. 11:22, refers to the Prince of the Covenant, that is the reigning High
> Priest of the temple in Jerusalem, Onias III. He is probably the last
> legitimate High Priest.
> The remaining verses refer to the activities of Antiochus IV.
> More information on Antiochus IV is found in the books of Maccabees and in
> Josephus.
> I don't know what you mean by "anti-Christ" in this context. The year here
> is 176 BCE.
> It would be interesting to speculate on whether the author of Daniel,
> clearly anti-Seleucid, saw Onias III as Messiah or even what that concept
> would have meant to him. That is a very intriguing thought. In any case,
> Onias III would have been one of those who led the multitude to
> righteousness and after his death would shine like the stars forever and
> ever (Dan. 12:3). This is also the attitude of the Dead Sea Scroll sect
> toward themselves as a priestly caste. They too thought they would become
> stars (=angels) after their death.
> Best wishes,
> Liz Fried
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:b-hebrew-
> > bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of John B. Senterfitt
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 1:35 PM
> > To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > Subject: [b-hebrew] Daniel 11:22
> >
> > Seeing as how I am quite new to this endeavor I would appreciate it if I
> am not
> > acting according to b-hebrew protocol, that you let me know.
> >
> > And so, assuming I am ok, I will go ahead and ask my question.
> >
> > Is there any conceivable way that Daniel 11:22 and the last statement
> "also prince
> > of covenant" could be in reference to Messiah?
> >
> > I know the verses before and after are obviously referring to the
> antichrist but could
> > it be that verse 22 is a nugget so easily overlooked?
> > John B. Senterfitt
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Yonah Mishael ben Avraham
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