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- From: "Yonah Mishael" <yonahmishael AT gmail.com>
- To: B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Daniel 11:22
- Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 23:17:05 -0500
Saying "prince of a covenant" might be a little stilted. We need to
remember that שר also means "minister." I think a "covenanted
minister" or a "minister of a covenant" is much better English and
also takes away the apparent messianic flavor of the title.
שלום
Yonah
On 8/30/06, Steve Miller <smille10 AT sbcglobal.net> wrote:
John,
I can't see any way that "and also prince of covenant" could refer to the
Messiah. This prince of a covenant is swept away and broken by the
contemptible person of v21. The "antichrist" (i.e. the little horn of Dan
8:9) does not do that to the Messiah.
If the contemptible person in v21 is the little horn of Dan 8:9, then "a
prince of a covenant" who is broken by him, should be someone that
antichrist made a covenant with, and then double-crossed. This thought is
continued in v23.
It may be that "prince of a covenant" refers back to the prince who makes
the 7-yr covenant in Dan 9:26-27. The words for prince and covenant are the
same in both Dan 9:26-27 & 11:22. If that is the case, then the contemptible
person in v21 is not antichrist, but some other contemptible person who
becomes a king, like the king in 11:16-20.
-Steve Miller
Detroit
www.voiceinwilderness.info
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John B. Senterfitt Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 1:35 PM
>
> Seeing as how I am quite new to this endeavor I would appreciate it if I
> am not acting according to b-hebrew protocol, that you let me know.
>
> And so, assuming I am ok, I will go ahead and ask my question.
>
> Is there any conceivable way that Daniel 11:22 and the last statement
> "also prince of covenant" could be in reference to Messiah?
>
> I know the verses before and after are obviously referring to the
> antichrist but could it be that verse 22 is a nugget so easily overlooked?
> John B. Senterfitt
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[b-hebrew] Daniel 11:22,
John B. Senterfitt, 08/29/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Daniel 11:22,
Yonah Mishael, 08/29/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Daniel 11:22, Lisbeth S. Fried, 08/29/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Daniel 11:22,
Yonah Mishael, 08/29/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Daniel 11:22,
Steve Miller, 08/30/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Daniel 11:22,
Yonah Mishael, 08/31/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Daniel 11:22,
Steve Miller, 08/31/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Daniel 11:22, Yonah Mishael, 08/31/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Daniel 11:22,
Steve Miller, 08/31/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Daniel 11:22,
Yonah Mishael, 08/31/2006
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- Re: [b-hebrew] Daniel 11:22, Shoshanna Walker, 08/29/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Daniel 11:22, Joel Stucki, 08/31/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Daniel 11:22,
Shoshanna Walker, 08/31/2006
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[b-hebrew] Was Daniel a prophet?,
Yigal Levin, 08/31/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Was Daniel a prophet?,
Harold Holmyard, 08/31/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Was Daniel a prophet?, rochelle altman, 08/31/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Was Daniel a prophet?,
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[b-hebrew] Was Daniel a prophet?,
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