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["Lisbeth S. Fried" <lizfried AT umich.edu>]

Dear Yonah
You are correct. It's generally assumed that the author did not live to see
the death of Antiochus IV.
Best,
Liz Fried

> -----Original Message-----
> From: b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:b-hebrew-
> bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Yonah Mishael
> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 7:18 PM
> To: B-Hebrew
> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Daniel 11:22
> 
> Liz,
> I have read that many of the details about the king returning and
> meeting his end are not correct in relation to the demise of Antiochus
> IV. Is there anything new that helps to bring the end of Daniel 11
> into agreement with the historical accounts of Antiochus IV Epiphanes'
> last campaign and death?
> 
> Thanks,
> Yonah
> 
> On 8/29/06, Lisbeth S. Fried <lizfried AT umich.edu> wrote:
> > Dear John,
> > Interesting that you should ask, I'm just now sitting here studying
these
> > verses in preparation for a course on the Dead Sea Scrolls.
> > In Daniel 11, the king of the south is the king of Egypt, Ptolemy I-VI.
The
> > King of the North is the King of the Seleucid Empire, variously
Antiochus
> > I-IV and Seleucus I-II.
> > Daniel 11:10-19 describes the reign of Antiochus III.
> > Daniel 11:20 refers to the short reign of Seleucus II, the son of
Antiochus
> > III.
> > Dan. 11:21 refers to Antiochus IV's usurpation of power from Demetrius,
the
> > son of Seleucus II.
> > Dan. 11:22, refers to the Prince of the Covenant, that is the reigning
High
> > Priest of the temple in Jerusalem, Onias III. He is probably the last
> > legitimate High Priest.
> > The remaining verses refer to the activities of Antiochus IV.
> > More information on Antiochus IV is found in the books of Maccabees and
in
> > Josephus.
> > I don't know what you mean by "anti-Christ" in this context. The year
here
> > is 176 BCE.
> > It would be interesting to speculate on whether the author of Daniel,
> > clearly anti-Seleucid, saw Onias III as Messiah or even what that
concept
> > would have meant to him. That is a very intriguing thought. In any case,
> > Onias III would have been one of those who led the multitude to
> > righteousness and after his death would shine like the stars forever and
> > ever (Dan. 12:3). This is also the attitude of the Dead Sea Scroll sect
> > toward themselves as a priestly caste. They too thought they would
become
> > stars (=angels) after their death.
> > Best wishes,
> > Liz Fried
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:b-hebrew-
> > > bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of John B. Senterfitt
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 1:35 PM
> > > To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > > Subject: [b-hebrew] Daniel 11:22
> > >
> > > Seeing as how I am quite new to this endeavor I would appreciate it if
I
> > am not
> > > acting according to b-hebrew protocol, that you let me know.
> > >
> > > And so, assuming I am ok, I will go ahead and ask my question.
> > >
> > > Is there any conceivable way that Daniel 11:22 and the last statement
> > "also prince
> > > of covenant" could be in reference to Messiah?
> > >
> > > I know the verses before and after are obviously referring to the
> > antichrist but could
> > > it be that verse 22 is a nugget so easily overlooked?
> > > John B. Senterfitt
> > >
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