Biblical Hebrew Forum

[Harold Holmyard <hholmyard AT ont.com>]

JAMES CHRISTIAN READ wrote:

> HH: The translation of the NRSV, NIV, and KJV simply accepts the reality 
> that he lived and died.
>
> JCR: Fair point. But it also accepts the reality that 
> Abraham lived and died and yet will always be considered 
> the father of many nations.


HH: What verse do you have in mind that is relevant to this discussion? 
Romans 4 won't do the trick:

Rom. 4:18 Against all hope, Abraham in hope believed and so became the 
father of many nations, just as it had been said to him, “So shall your 
offspring be.”

HH: First, it is in Greek, not Hebrew. Second, Abraham became the father 
of many nations because of the faith that he exercised. The verses 
envisions a process. So "became" is quite appropriate as a translation 
in the context.


> It also accepts that Isreal 
> lived and died but will always be considered the father 
> of the twelve tribes of Isreal.


HH: What verse do you have in mind here?

> It also accepts that 
> Eve lived and died but will always be considerd the mother 
> of mankind...
>  


NRSV: Gen. 3:20 The man named his wife Eve, because she was the mother 
of all living.

Yours,
Harold Holmyard