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- From: "B. M. Rocine" <brocine AT twcny.rr.com>
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- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] One scholar's' opinion
- Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2006 07:51:12 -0400
B-Haveray,
I think we do best to assume a cummunicative partnership or cooperation between a writer/speaker and his audience. Such a partnership implies different functions for different forms.
For instance, I think we should distinguish in Hebrew narration between scene-setting that is done with a noun sentence (a.k.a. verbless clause) and that which is done with a sentence using the qatal of HYH. To be specific, the noun sentence may describe a state as it existed at the time the narrator is focused on. In contrast, the sentence using qatal of HYH may describe the "coming into a state."
Put another way, the best English translation of the noun sentence used in the narration of the past utilizes *was* or *were*. E.g. (Gen 1:2)
(noun sentence)vexoshekh `al peney tahom
"and darkness *was* upon the surface of [the] deep."
The best English translation of qatal of HYH in narration of the past utilizes *had become*. E.g. Gen 1:2
(qatal of HYH) veha'erets hayetah tohu vabohu
"And the earth had become..."
Another example of a qatal of HYH in narration is in Gen 3:1
(qatal of HYH) vehanaxash hayah `arum mikkol xayat hassadeh
"And the serpent *had become* more subtil than any animal of the field."
In other words, the Lord did not create this animal in such a problematic condition. The animal had become so over time.
Gen 4:21 uses both forms:
(noun sentence)veshem 'axiyv jubal
"And his brother's name *was* Jubal"
(qatal of HYH)hu' hayah abi kol tophes kinor ve`ugab
"And he *became* the father of all players of lyre and harp."
Shalom,
Bryan
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B. M. Rocine
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[b-hebrew] One scholar's' opinion,
Don Grothe, 07/02/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] One scholar's' opinion, Joel Stucki, 07/02/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] One scholar's' opinion, Harold Holmyard, 07/02/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] One scholar's' opinion,
JAMES CHRISTIAN READ, 07/02/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] One scholar's' opinion,
Joel Stucki, 07/03/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] One scholar's' opinion, K Randolph, 07/03/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] One scholar's' opinion,
Joel Stucki, 07/03/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] One scholar's' opinion,
JAMES CHRISTIAN READ, 07/02/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] One scholar's' opinion,
B. M. Rocine, 07/03/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] One scholar's' opinion,
Harold Holmyard, 07/03/2006
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[b-hebrew] noun sentence vs. qatal of HYH,
B. M. Rocine, 07/05/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] noun sentence vs. qatal of HYH, Harold Holmyard, 07/05/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] noun sentence vs. qatal of HYH, Joel Stucki, 07/06/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] noun sentence vs. qatal of HYH,
Vadim Cherny, 07/06/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] noun sentence vs. qatal of HYH, Peter Kirk, 07/06/2006
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[b-hebrew] noun sentence vs. qatal of HYH,
B. M. Rocine, 07/05/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] One scholar's' opinion,
Harold Holmyard, 07/03/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] One scholar's' opinion,
B. M. Rocine, 07/03/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] One scholar's' opinion, Harold Holmyard, 07/02/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] One scholar's' opinion, JAMES CHRISTIAN READ, 07/03/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] One scholar's' opinion,
Shoshanna Walker, 07/04/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] One scholar's' opinion, Peter Kirk, 07/04/2006
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