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- From: "Karl Randolph" <kwrandolph AT email.com>
- To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] CV syllables, was music in Hebrew
- Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 13:47:34 -0500
Yitzhak:
Peter Kirk already well answered some of your objections.
Karl W. Randolph.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yitzhak Sapir" <yitzhaksapir AT gmail.com>
>
> On 2/3/06, Karl Randolph wrote:
>
> ...
> > The evidence for Biblical Hebrew having had a CV
> > structure is again theory, in this case my own based on
> > reading Tanakh a few times through in unpointed Hebrew.
> > That influenced me to believe that each letter originally
> > stood for one consonantal sound, in contrast to the
> > Masoretic pointing of two sounds for some of the letters.
> > When read in that way, many words are unpronounceable
> > except as CV syllables, hence my theory.
>
...
>
> Second, the evidence you brought for those letters being
> unpronounceable was from Modern Hebrew, against which
> evidence was brought that 1) you are wrong (on the Ayin/
> Aleph unvocalized issue), 2) your knowledge of Modern
> Hebrew is faulty. You have not answered those criticisms.
>
Unless you claim that "Modern Hebrew" is not the same
as what in common parlance is the name for the language
spoken in modern Israel, then the pronunciation I was
taught is similar but not the same as Modern Hebrew.
Secondly, I have come to the conclusion that even that
modern reconstruction of Masoretic pronunciation is most
likely incorrect when applied to the Biblical period.
> Finally, even if you prove that some or many words are
> unpronounceable except as CV words, that doesn't mean
> that the rest of the words that are left are unpronounceable
> except as CV words. It's quite possible for a language to
> have some CV words and some CVCC words etc. In order
> to prove your theory you have to somehow show that *all*
> words were unpronounceable except as CV words.
>
No I don't. Especially since neither it nor its converse
are provable.
> Yitzhak Sapir
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Re: [b-hebrew] CV syllables, was music in Hebrew
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- Re: [b-hebrew] CV syllables, was music in Hebrew, Rochelle Altman, 02/09/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] CV syllables, was music in Hebrew, Peter Kirk, 02/09/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] CV syllables, was music in Hebrew, Peter Kirk, 02/09/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] CV syllables, was music in Hebrew, Yitzhak Sapir, 02/11/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] CV syllables, was music in Hebrew, Peter Kirk, 02/11/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] CV syllables, was music in Hebrew, Yitzhak Sapir, 02/11/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] CV syllables, was music in Hebrew, Yitzhak Sapir, 02/11/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] CV syllables, was music in Hebrew, Peter Kirk, 02/12/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] History of matres lectionis, was CV syllables, Peter Kirk, 02/13/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] CV syllables, was music in Hebrew,
Yitzhak Sapir, 02/04/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] CV syllables, was music in Hebrew, Peter Kirk, 02/04/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] CV syllables, was music in Hebrew, Yitzhak Sapir, 02/06/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] CV syllables, was music in Hebrew, Yitzhak Sapir, 02/06/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] CV syllables, was music in Hebrew, Peter Kirk, 02/06/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] CV syllables, was music in Hebrew, Rochelle Altman, 02/07/2006
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