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Learned collegues:
 
And I wonder how the Xtians can reconcile this destruction to Xt's command to 
love one's enemies.
 
Just curious.
 
Marc Bauer
 


Yigal Levin <leviny1 AT mail.biu.ac.il> wrote:Dear Jack,

I like your metaphor. But I think that the core meaning of XRM is actually 
"set aside" (for the deity), which is also its meaning in Arabic. In this 
way, its core meaning is very similar to QD$. This is what Joshua did to the 
booty of Jericho. An expantion of XRM is to sacrifice for the deity, 
including killing the enemy (men, women and children) in a holy war, such as 
was done by Joshua or by Saul to the Amalekites. And thus, a city destroyed 
in a holy war is also XRM.


Yigal
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> It is my own fault for having commented on a topic that has both many 
> technical aspects and is highly contraversial without access to my usual 
> refernece materials. My house is being painted and I writing from a 
> coffee shop.
>
> The term semantic domain of course is a metaphor, derived from the feudal 
> term domain (dominus = lord), the geographical territory controlled by a 
> lord. The political domain had a capital (core) and borders (periphery). 
> The borders of a feudal domain of course could change due to through the 
> acquisition of new territory, either existing feual lands of another lord 
> or through feudalization of non-feudal lands. Lose of lands can occur as 
> well.
>
> I find it useful to extend this metaphor to semantics. A semantic domain 
> has a core concept, for example to kill a domesticated aminal - to 
> slaughter in English. When domesticated animals are killed, they are 
> usually easy to find, are killed in close quarters, and there is rarely 
> much of fight put up (pigs are something on an exception). This is why 
> there is usually a separate lexeme for killing wild animals since they 
> must be found, they can put up much more of a fight, and as a result are 
> usually killed from a distance.
>
> The domain of slaughter however can be expanded to the killing of people, 
> either when those dying are unarmed and are unable to resist, soldlers 
> kiling civilians for example, or when those dying, even if armed and 
> capable of resistence, are dying in such a way that they may as well be 
> unarmed. These people are dying as if they were domesticated animals.
>
> The domain might be extended even further to conflicts between people 
> where no one actually dies, but the conflict is so one sided, that it had 
> lives been on the line, it would have seemed like the passive death of a 
> sheep. Sporting events or elections come to mind ("They got 
> slaughtered.")
>
> The core concept of the domain is an easy, passive death (viewed from the 
> slaughterer's perspective of course) of a domesticated animal, the capital 
> of the domain. The borders include non-domesticated animals (including 
> people)that die as if they were domesticated animals and situations where 
> difficult opposition would be expected but fails to materialize resulting 
> in one-sided outcome. Where one is in this wide semantic domain is 
> determined by what the neighboring semantic domain are, i.e. the context.
>
> XRM could have grown the same way. I would think that originally it 
> applied to ritual events were domesticated animals were slaughtered, 
> butchered, and burnt beyond the point where they might be consumed by 
> humans (and by extention only consumed by God). The animals was made 
> inaccessable to the owner (given-up) and accessable to only to God (given 
> to). This core concept might be extended to non-dietary objects that are 
> given up by the owner and given to God, although not physically destroyed 
> although perhaps metaphorically. The semantic domain could also be 
> extended to military conflicts that differed from the normal fighting 
> between warriors (who can put up a fight) to military conflicts where 
> civilians (who are not expected to be able to defend themselves) are also 
> targeted, resulting in the complete eradication of the opposing party. 
> That this eradication might have divine sanction only makes the link to 
> the core conept stronger. I think the Isaiah citation is an eve!
> n greater extention of the borders.
>
>
>
>
> Jack Tladatsi
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On 27/10/2005 23:14, Read, James C wrote:

> >Anyway,
> >that connection would not be the derivation of "seven" from "rest",
> >although just possibly vice versa.
>
> Exactly!
>
> The fact that this derivation is more ancient than the Mosaic period ...
>

No, the fact is that there is no derivation which is not at least 
millennia older than the Mosaic period, and probably no derivation at all.

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