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  • From: "Karl Randolph" <kwrandolph AT email.com>
  • To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] phonetic writing, was Initial "Beged Kefet" consonants always have a...
  • Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 12:14:36 -0500

Peter:

But that's just the point. While the number of names that
Joel Hoffman presented is small, that the same names
have radically different pronunciations calls all the
pronunciation schema into question. Further, none of the
pronunciation points nor transliterations were extant when
there were still native speakers of Biblical Hebrew to
interview. The earliest was generations later. Who knows
what changed before.

And I will add to that that even within the tradition of the
Masoretic points, it is demonstrable that some of them are
wrong. Remember, I gave an example concerning
Proverbs 1:19 a while back.

The probability that after 1000 years of war, upheaval, no
native speakers, exiles, foreign accents and so forth, that
the MT should accurately preserve Biblical pronunciation
is a vanishingly small probability. Hence I can confidently
claim that the Masoretic points do not reflect Biblical
pronunciations.

Karl W. Randolph.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Kirk" <peterkirk AT qaya.org>
>
> Joel Hoffman's interesting chart of a rather small number of names
> was inadequate to show any clear patterns of relationship between
> the LXX and MT forms of these names. Considerably more names would
> be needed to show that there are patterns rather than chaos and
> randomness. The different forms found in other Greek authorities
> tend to increase the apparent chaos and randomness - although I am
> not saying that no patterns would emerge from a long and detailed
> study. This is irrespective of how much weight we give to Dr Buth's
> conclusions.
>
> The New Testament does indeed show variations in Greek spelling
> between different MSS. I guess the same is true of the LXX. As far
> as I know it has not been demonstrated that these are regional
> variations rather than diachronic change with time. And I don't see
> how these differences can be related to Hebrew.
>
> -- Peter Kirk
> peter AT qaya.org (personal)
> peterkirk AT qaya.org (work)
> http://www.qaya.org/


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