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- From: Peter Kirk <peterkirk AT qaya.org>
- To: pennerkm AT mcmaster.ca
- Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] tenses
- Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 12:57:14 +0100
On 20/09/2005 12:52, Ken Penner wrote:
Peter wrote:
"Would" NEVER indicates future tense and never has done. This is a mother tongue speaker telling you that, with support from several other mother tongue speakers on this list, as well as from reference books.
I think this is stated a bit too strongly. "Would" is considered "posterior
past" by Hans Reichenbach (Elements of Symbolic Logic, 297), the very man
responsible for the event model constituted by speech time (S), reference
time (R), and event time (E). Reichenbach's "posterior" is now generally
called "relative future tense," in which R precedes E.
"For the posterior past R-E-S the form 'he would do' is used, for instance
in 'I did not expect that he would win the race'" (297). Reichenbach also
gives "he was going to" as a substitute for this use of "would" (298).
It may be a "relative future tense", but that is not the same thing as the future tense which Vadim keeps going on about.
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Re: [b-hebrew] tenses - Ex 3:14
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Re: [b-hebrew] tenses - Ex 3:14,
Peter Kirk, 09/16/2005
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- Re: [b-hebrew] tenses - Ex 3:14, Dave Washburn, 09/17/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] tenses - Ex 3:14,
Peter Kirk, 09/18/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] tenses - Ex 3:14, Vadim Cherny, 09/19/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] tenses - Ex 3:14, Peter Kirk, 09/19/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] tenses - Ex 3:14, Vadim Cherny, 09/19/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] tenses - Ex 3:14, Peter Kirk, 09/19/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] tenses, Vadim Cherny, 09/20/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] tenses, Peter Kirk, 09/20/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] tenses, Ken Penner, 09/20/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] tenses, Peter Kirk, 09/20/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] tenses, Vadim Cherny, 09/20/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] tenses, Peter Kirk, 09/20/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] tenses, Vadim Cherny, 09/20/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] tenses, Peter Kirk, 09/20/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] tenses, Vadim Cherny, 09/20/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] tenses - Ex 3:14,
Peter Kirk, 09/18/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] tenses - Ex 3:14,
Peter Kirk, 09/16/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] tenses - Ex 3:14, Michael Abernathy, 09/19/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] tenses - Ex 3:14, Vadim Cherny, 09/20/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] tenses - Ex 3:14, Peter Kirk, 09/20/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] tenses - Ex 3:14, Rolf Furuli, 09/20/2005
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- Re: [b-hebrew] tenses, Peter Kirk, 09/21/2005
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