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  • From: Peter Kirk <peterkirk AT qaya.org>
  • To: Vadim Cherny <VadimCherny AT mail.ru>
  • Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] tenses - Deut1:44
  • Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 11:50:32 +0100

On 19/09/2005 09:04, Vadim Cherny wrote:

Present tense
Deuteronomy 1:44 "they pursued you, as the bees do"


My reading was "as the bees would do".

Recall Rolf's example of 1Kings21:6: `Because I spoke (YIQTOL) to Nabot the
Jezreelite and said (WAYYIQTOL) to him...' Literally, “As I would speak to
Nabot.”
In both cases, we have seemingly idiomatic form ci-yiqtol. Reading "as smbd
would do" suits both cases.
You argued that "as smbd would do" is not future tense in English, though I
am not sure what else is it. ...


It is habitual past, corresponding to one use of the Russian imperfective past, as in the form преследовали which you quoted for the conventional Russian translation.

... What is important for the tense hypothesis,
however, is that stand-alone "would do" is English future tense. ...


Well, since this last part is NOT TRUE, I assume you will now withdraw your "tense hypothesis".

...

Would you agree that Deut1:44 and 1Kings21:6 do not contradict the
hypothesis of Hebrew using tenses?


They do contradict your hypothesis.


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