Biblical Hebrew Forum

[David P Donnelly <davedonnelly1 AT juno.com>]

On Sun Sep 11 19:27:22 EDT 2005 
Peter Kirk wrote:

>>>
I'm not sure where IAOUAI comes from.
>>>

Peter, 

http://www.iahushua.com/ST-RP/note60.htm
The above site reproduces an article on The Pronunciation of the Divine
Name,
written by an unknown author, from an URL that is no longer valid.
This article has three interesting notes;
Note # 6 says:
>>>
6. According to A.T. Robertson the scribes could interchange “ai” and “e”
according to personal taste. 
The pronunciation is really the same, the difference being only the
spelling. 
>>>
Note #1 says concerning the scholarly reconstructed: YAH:WEH:
>>>
1. sec. 102m, Gesenius' Hebrew Grammar. The grammar says that these
vowels are "original". 

>>>

The author  of this article tries to make the case that the “waw” in
YAH:WEH 
could be changed to a shureq [with a segol under it] thus creating a
3-syllable name.
Note # 2 says:
>>>
2. For those who might doubt the possibility of this form, you should
compare it with Prov. 12:23
>>>

My sources indicate that what appears to be a shureq with a segol under
it in Proverbs 12:23
 is actually a doubled “vav” with a segol under it. [ivveleth]

Is what appears to be a shureq in Proverbs 12:23 actually a doubled
"vav"?
 
Dave Donnelly
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On 13/09/2005 15:18, David P Donnelly wrote:

> ...
>  
> _ _
>
> _http://www.iahushua.com/ST-RP/note60.htm_
>
> ...
>
> Note #1 says concerning the scholarly reconstructed: YAH:WEH:
>
> >>>
>
> 1. sec. 102m, Gesenius' Hebrew Grammar. The grammar says that these 
> vowels are "original".
>
> >>>
>

Well, if Gesenius is accepted as an authority, the divine name is 
certainly יַהְוֶה YAH:WEH .

>  
>
> The author  of this article tries to make the case that the “waw” in 
> YAH:WEH
>
> could be changed to a shureq [with a segol under it] thus creating a 
> 3-syllable name.
>
> Note # 2 says:
>
> >>>
>
> 2. For those who might doubt the possibility of this form, you should 
> compare it with Prov. 12:23
>
> >>>
>
>  
>
> My sources indicate that what appears to be a shureq with a segol 
> under it in Proverbs 12:23
>
>  is actually a doubled “vav” with a segol under it. [ivveleth]
>
>  
>
> Is what appears to be a shureq in Proverbs 12:23 actually a doubled "vav"?
>
>  
>
Yes. And that is the only possible interpretation of the suggested 
spelling יַהְוֶּה or (in the list standard transliteration) YAH:W.EH, 
for 
vav following a vowel point must be consonantal. But this is not a 
possible spelling, not because of the vav with dagesh but because sheva 
followed by dagesh in a non-begadkepat letter is highly anomalous. In 
fact such combinations occur only seven times in the Hebrew Bible WLC 
text: 1SA 17:31; PSA 41:3; SNG 5:2,11; JER 3:17; EZK 18:29; DAN 2:10. 
PSA 41:3 is a reconstructed Qere in which there may be an error; every 
other Hebrew case here is footnoted in BHS with an indication like "many 
MSS and editions read (the same form without dagesh)".

-- 
Peter Kirk
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