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  • From: David P Donnelly <davedonnelly1 AT juno.com>
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  • Subject: [b-hebrew] Did Clement of Alexandria write YHWH = Iaou?
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http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-7/264290/IaouFootnote.jpg

At the link above is a portion of the Article "Jehovah" from the
Encyclopedia Britannica of 1910-11.

It mentions that Clement of Alexandria said that the Tetragrammaton was
pronounced "Iaoue",
however in a footnote at the bottom of the page,
it mentions that 3 different variants are found at Stromata Book V.
Chapter 6.

One of these variants is "Iaou" and it is said to be found in Codex L.

Codex L is Greek Codex Laurentianus V 3, and is an eleventh century
manuscript.

It is possible that Codex Laurentianus is the oldest evidence in
existence,
that preserves the actual Greek spelling that Clement of Alexandria
wrote in about 200 A.D.

Dave Donnelly
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If you look in HALOT it says ....

"by the transcription IAOUAI/E in Clement of Alexandria Stromata 5:6." p395
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> http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-7/264290/IaouFootnote.jpg
>
> At the link above is a portion of the Article "Jehovah" from the
> Encyclopedia Britannica of 1910-11.
>
> It mentions that Clement of Alexandria said that the Tetragrammaton was
> pronounced "Iaoue",
> however in a footnote at the bottom of the page,
> it mentions that 3 different variants are found at Stromata Book V.
> Chapter 6.
>
> One of these variants is "Iaou" and it is said to be found in Codex L.
>
> Codex L is Greek Codex Laurentianus V 3, and is an eleventh century
> manuscript.
>
> It is possible that Codex Laurentianus is the oldest evidence in
> existence,
> that preserves the actual Greek spelling that Clement of Alexandria
> wrote in about 200 A.D.
>
> Dave Donnelly
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Kelton Graham writes:

>>>
If you look in HALOT it says ....

"by the transcription IAOUAI/E in Clement of Alexandria Stromata 5:6."
p395
--
Kelton Graham
KGRAHAM0938 at comcast.net
>>>

Smith's 1863 "A Dictionary of the Bible" says that "Iaou is found at
(Clem. Alex. Strom. v. p.666)
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-7/264290/IaoueInformationfrom1863trim
med.JPG

Smith's 1863 "A Dictionary of the Bible" also says "Iaoue" is found in a
catena to the Pentateuch
in a MX. at Turin.

The Catholic Encyclopedia of 1910 in the article "Jehovah (Yahweh)" says:
>>>
Clement of Alexandria ("Strom." V, 6, in P.G., IX, col.60) Jaou
>>>

Dave Donnelly
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> Also Yahweh seems to be answering questions Moses did not
> ask. As I noted earlier Yahweh tells Moses that he may not
> see Yahweh?s face even though Moses did not ask to see His
> face. Yahweh goes on to say that He loves whom He loves
> and He honors whom He honors (or however you want to
> translate that). What question is Yahweh answering? In
> Ex 3:14 Moses asks Yahweh what His name is and Yahweh
> responds I am who I am which some correspondents suggest is
> a non-response, if not actually a rude or snide response
> (verb ?asher ?verb). Irrespective of the nature of the
> response, it is a response to a question. Moses did not
> ask Yahweh anything about who is loved or favored and
> Yahweh has already said that Moses has His favor. It is
> almost as if someone asked why does Moses get this special
> treatment and Yahweh responds I will decide who gets
> special treatment who does not.

Moses asks in Ex33:16 about himself and the people. The answer in Ex33:19
also refers to both: show the goodness to Moses, and forgive the people.

Both parts of the answer are palliative refusal: Moses cannot be shown the
glory [face] (Ex33:20), but only the goodness; people cannot be forgiven en
masse, but some of them will be forgiven (those to whom God will show
mercy).



Vadim Cherny





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