Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Heard, Christopher" <Christopher.Heard AT pepperdine.edu>]

Not to speak for Jim, but if you ask somebody not to do P, doesn't it  
logically follow that you believe they are both able and, under the  
right conditions, willing to do P? Otherwise, what is the point of  
asking that individual not to do P? In this case, P = "lead us into  
temptation."

But  now we are encroaching upon B-Greek territory.

Chris

On Aug 5, 2005, at 1:17 PM, Read, James C wrote:

> I'm sorry but maybe I've missed the point of your quotation.  
> Shoshanna was
> suggesting that Yah purposefully created bad messengers whose  
> purpose was
> to tempt mankind and trick them into doing what is bad.
> Jesus here is asking Yah to protect us from temptations *not* bring  
> them on
> so that we can prove how good we are.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim West [mailto:jwest AT highland.net]
> Sent: Fri 8/5/2005 8:57 PM
> To: Read, James C; b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Is.45:7 God created evil?
>
>
>
> Read James C wrote:
>
>
> > This is an interesting observation. And if you are correct,this would
> > mean that Yah is the original source of such temptations.
> >
> > What biblical/traditional evidences lead you to such a firm  
> > conclusion?
>
> "and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil......"   
> Jesus
> of Nazareth.
>
> jim
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