Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Read, James C" <K0434995 AT kingston.ac.uk>]

According to the paradigms offered at the back of Davidson's introductory 
Hebrew 
grammar, lamed-he verbs in the hiphil and hophal are bisyllabic with a final 
'eh'
e.g. YaGLeH, YaaGLeH
But we also need to consider the pe-guttural. The example given in Davidson's 
paradigms is:
Ya)aMiiD, Yaa)aMaD
Both have a vowel to facilitate the pronunciation of the guttural. I 
personally find 
it quite hard,but not impossible, to pronounce the 'he' in YaHWeH and when I 
succeed
it becomes part of the second syllable rather than an end to the first 
syllable.
Another factor we have to take into account is the the fact that HWH is an 
ayin-waw 
verb and so the standard 'a' vowel under the pe-guttural could well be 
affected by 
this. Alas, herein we reach data limitations because the verb example offered 
by 
Davidson has biliteral root and not a triliteral one but the exaples are as 
follows.
YaaQiYM, YUQaM

It appears that the verb HWH is irregular on three counts and that we must 
consider 
more than the lamed-he aspect in order to make a reliable reconstruction. If 
we take 
into account only the lamed-he we get the form:

YaHWeH 

which is admittedly popular in scholarly circles.
However, applying also the pe-guttural we get the form:

YaHaWeH

which seems to stand in opposition to the transliterations at our disposal.
Applying also the ayin-waw component it is not impossible that this factor 
has an influence on the second vowel which would produce something like:

YaHuWeH
YaHoWeH

which seems to be in agreement with both the theophoric components and the 
transliteration

IAOUAI

Any thoughts?

Love and Shalom
James Christian

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] YHWH pronunciation
 
On 01/08/2005 12:09, Read, James C wrote:

> ...
>
> Peter! Can you run me through the long 'eh' reasoning again? I still 
> haven't
> quite got the grasp of it.
>
>
I rather think there are two bases for this:

1) The Greek attestations of the name, which mostly end in -E, or -AI 
which was pronounced like a long "e".

2) The hypothesis that the name is derived from a form of the verb HWH, 
which would typically end in -e(h).

-- 
Peter Kirk
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Peter:

Given the nature of Greek transliteration (or rather 
non-transliteration) of heh, the final could have been a -he 
as well as a -e(h).

Karl W. Randolph.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Kirk" <peterkirk AT qaya.org>

> 
> On 01/08/2005 12:09, Read, James C wrote:
> 
> > ...
> >
> > Peter! Can you run me through the long 'eh' reasoning again? I still 
> > haven't
> > quite got the grasp of it.
> >
> >
> I rather think there are two bases for this:
> 
> 1) The Greek attestations of the name, which mostly end in -E, or -AI
> which was pronounced like a long "e".
> 
> 2) The hypothesis that the name is derived from a form of the verb HWH,
> which would typically end in -e(h).
> 
> --
> Peter Kirk
> peter AT qaya.org (personal)
> peterkirk AT qaya.org (work)
> http://www.qaya.org/

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