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- From: "Vadim Cherny" <VadimCherny AT mail.ru>
- To: <joleys AT jtsa.edu>, <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] IaBe = YHWH or IaBe = Jove?
- Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 17:20:03 +0300
> >Besides YHWH - Jove, there is Zvaoth - Zeus parallel. Too much for a
> >coincidence. Since YHWH and Zvaoth are meaningful in Hebrew, the
direction
> >of borrowing is certain.
> >
> Are you implying that "Zeus" isn't meaningful? My Greek and Latin are a
> bit rusty, but isn't it commonly held that Ζευζ (Zeus) is related to the
> Latin 'deus' and that both likely come from a common Indo-European root.
> And besides a similar--not identical--initial consonant sound, which is
> made to look more similar than it is by the choice of transliterating
> tsade as 'zv,' I don't see much of a similarity between 'tsvoath' and
> 'Zeus.'
Well, I do not press this idea; it might be wrong. But Greek borrowing of
this basic word from Latin is strange. I also don't imagine why Greeks heard
Latin d as z. I know of dz in ME languages, but am not sure whether d-dz-z
is a common shift in Latin-to-Greek borrowing. Hebrew, however, has clear
meaning both for YHWH and Zvaoth.
I imagine a bit more similarity between Zvaoth and Zeus than a single
consonant: Tz-z, schwa vocal-e, v-u, th-s.
Vadim Cherny
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[b-hebrew] IaBe = YHWH or IaBe = Jove?,
David P Donnelly, 07/23/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] IaBe = YHWH or IaBe = Jove?,
Peter Kirk, 07/23/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] IaBe = YHWH or IaBe = Jove?,
Vadim Cherny, 07/24/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] IaBe = YHWH or IaBe = Jove?,
John W. Leys., 07/24/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] IaBe = YHWH or IaBe = Jove?,
Vadim Cherny, 07/24/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] IaBe = YHWH or IaBe = Jove?,
John W. Leys., 07/24/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] IaBe = YHWH or IaBe = Jove?,
Yitzhak Sapir, 07/24/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] IaBe = YHWH or IaBe = Jove?, Vadim Cherny, 07/24/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] IaBe = YHWH or IaBe = Jove?, Vadim Cherny, 07/24/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] IaBe = YHWH or IaBe = Jove?,
Yitzhak Sapir, 07/24/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] IaBe = YHWH or IaBe = Jove?,
John W. Leys., 07/24/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] IaBe = YHWH or IaBe = Jove?,
Vadim Cherny, 07/24/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] IaBe = YHWH or IaBe = Jove?,
John W. Leys., 07/24/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] IaBe = YHWH or IaBe = Jove?,
Vadim Cherny, 07/24/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] IaBe = YHWH or IaBe = Jove?,
Jack Kilmon, 07/23/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] IaBe = YHWH or IaBe = Jove?, Vadim Cherny, 07/24/2005
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
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Re: [b-hebrew] IaBe = YHWH or IaBe = Jove?,
David P Donnelly, 07/23/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] IaBe = YHWH or IaBe = Jove?, Peter Kirk, 07/24/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] IaBe = YHWH or IaBe = Jove?, Read, James C, 07/24/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] IaBe = YHWH or IaBe = Jove?,
Peter Kirk, 07/23/2005
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