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["Yigal Levin" <leviny1 AT mail.biu.ac.il>]

Perhaps. And remember the (MUTCH) later tradition, that Galileans could not 
pronounce their He's....
 One interesting thing. In the MT, the name Yah, either when written alone 
(e.g. Ex. 15:3) or as part of a word like "haleluyah", always has a mappiq in 
the He, showing that it is meant to be pronounced as a consonant. In personal 
names, like Hezekiyah, Gedaliyah etc., its always with no mappiq.

Yigal
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Uri Hurwitz 
  To: Yigal Levin ; b-hebrew 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 11:51 PM
  Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] yhwh pronunciation


      Some feel, with good reason,  that the Northern ...YW  suffix 
repreresents a diphtong and was pronounced ...auw, thus similar but not  
quite the same as Yahu.

     Uri

  Yigal Levin <leviny1 AT mail.biu.ac.il> wrote:
    "..., YW (Yoh, or maybe Yaw) in northern Israel,
    and YHW (Yahu) in the post-exilic period. ... 



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Yah

I was always under the impression that the shortened form Yah 
was used as a matter of preference in poetry and it is for 
this reason that we see such a dominance of this form in the 
Psalms.

yhwh as a verb

I think it has been quite clear for many centuries that yhwh 
is a verb form very much related to the occassion when Yah 
revealed his name in connection with his purpose to his servant 
Moses on Mount Sinai. Even for critics who don't take the account 
as authentic it should be reasonably clear that the author of the 
Torah felt that it was so related.

can a name be a verb?

I find no conflict in the hebrew custom of naming and the use of 
a verb in a proper name. Names were always descriptive of the 
person rather than the mere lables we tend to use today in the 
English language.
What better way to describe a person than by what he does?
In times past in Britain people were named 'Smith' if they made swords
or 'Thatcher' if they made rooves or 'Carpenter' if they made tables and
chairs.
The causative yhwh would literally mean something like 'he causes to be'
or 'he causes to become' or in plain English 'he creates'. This seems 
to fit the character nicely and more than just satisfying grammatical 
rules seems to sound right from a spiritual perspective, which is a 
perspective that must have been very important to the ancient hebrews.

Number of Syllables.

Sorry for the mess up before. That's what happens when you join a 
discussion from memory without checking the grammar first.
However, while you are quite right that a regular verb would be 
bisyllabic I'm sure you are all aware that regular roots are few 
and far between. And that the root hwh is anything but regular. 
Plus the general conception that this is a causative form. To the 
best of my knowledge pe guttural hiphils and hophals are trisyllabic.
The evidence from the ancient names of a second long vowel o/u is 
insurmountable.

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Hi all

Recent Question
How do you pronounce YHWH/YHW?

Recent Answers
Yehowah, Yahwe, Yehowah, etc. / Yehu, Yahu, etc.

New Question
How do you pronounce Yehowah, Yahwe, Yehowah, etc. / Yehu, Yahu, etc.?

Answer to be provided in either
1. RP English
2. Yah- as in Yahoo, -we as in way
3. IPA - for those who do not know English pronunciations or speak in
dialects

Regards
Joe Baker ===========\
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Western Australia ===/