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My point what that it is an example of human scrafice, foolish or not.  It is 
no different from Abraham and Issac except there is no divine intervention to 
stop it.

There is no overt critism of Jephthah in the text.  His *foolish* vow won 
Isreal a great military victory over Ammon and established Jephthah as King 
of Gilead.  Jephthah only made the vow after the *spirit of Yahweh* came over 
him.  So
it is not clear that the intent of the writer was to show Jephthah as 
foolish.  

> 
> From: "Vadim Cherny" <VadimCherny AT mail.ru>
> Date: 2005/04/26 Tue PM 01:19:49 GMT
> To: <tladatsi AT charter.net>
> CC: <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: Re: Re: Human Sacrafice & 2 Sam 21
> 
> The whole point of the story is that Jephtah took a foolish vow. This is why
> his daughter was whailed. He did not mean to sacrifice his daughter. A
> fool's example is no argument. Besides, note how carefully the author avoids
> saying that she died. One possible implication is that she was consecrated:
> why stress her virginity otherwise?
> 
> Vadim Cherny
> 
> 
> > Not even Judges 11:29 - Jephthah's Vow?
> > >
> > > There are no human sacrifices in Judaism. Point.
> > > Execution of guilty person is not sacrifice, but an act
> > of purifying the
> > > community.
> > >
> > > Vadim Cherny
> > >
> > >
> > > > I think your points are well taken.  2 Sam 21 is a
> > story of
> > > > human sacrafice.  Yahweh causes a famine in response to
> > > > Saul's crime. The famine causes widespread suffering.
> > The
> > > > death of Saul's sons and grandsons satisfies God as the
> > > > Saul's crime is atoned for, and the famine ends.  Since
> > > > Saul is dead, he cannot atone for his own sins, so it
> > be
> > > > dealt with (or visited) by God upon Saul's sons and
> > > > grandsons.  David has correctly understood the issues
> > and
> > > > dealth with them in a manner that effects the end of
> > the
> > > > famine.
> > > >
> > > > This is the only point I was trying to make - in the
> > OT,
> > > > there are cases of later generations being dealt with
> > by
> > > > God in negative fashion to atone for the sins of
> > earlier
> > > > generations.  Most people would describe this as
> > > > punishment.  I dare if I were killed and impaled on a
> > pole
> > > > for an entire barley season to atone for a sin my
> > > > grandfather committed, I would describe it as
> > punishment.
> > > >
> > > > Jack Tladatsi
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Jack Tladatsi
> >
> >
> 
> 

Jack Tladatsi