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- From: Peter Kirk <peterkirk AT qaya.org>
- To: "C. Stirling Bartholomew" <jacksonpollock AT earthlink.net>
- Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Re: Hebrew "Nominative"
- Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 20:11:17 +0100
On 28/09/2004 19:44, C. Stirling Bartholomew wrote:
On 9/28/04 10:36 AM, "Peter Kirk" <peterkirk AT qaya.org> wrote:Well, in my dialect of English, forms of this without "is" are ungrammatical, and so is "Mistah Kurtz he is dead". So I can't compare these forms in an unfamiliar dialect.
Well, (&W )DWM and YHWH H)LHYM would also be grammatical sentences, so
the added HW) is syntactically unnecessary here, just like the added HW)
or other pronoun in a sentence with a finite verb but no explicit
subject. The syntactic analogy of course does not necessarily imply
similar semantics.
Right. One question,
a. Mistah Kurtz--he dead
b. Mistah Kurtz [is] dead.
Assume these represent the BH clauses, are they equivalent?
If not, what type of function does "he" perform? Pragmatic? Semantic?
In both Hebrew and Russian the equivalent of "Mistah Kurtz dead" is grammatical, and also the equivalent of "he" may be added. In Russian, "Mistah Kurtz dead" would be normal, and "Mistah Kurtz he dead" would require a break before "he" and mean "As for Mistah Kurtz, he is dead". But I'm not sure that the distinction is the same in Hebrew.
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Peter Kirk
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[b-hebrew] Re: Hebrew "Nominative",
David Kummerow, 09/27/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: Hebrew "Nominative",
C. Stirling Bartholomew, 09/28/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: Hebrew "Nominative",
Peter Kirk, 09/28/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: Hebrew "Nominative",
C. Stirling Bartholomew, 09/28/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: Hebrew "Nominative",
Peter Kirk, 09/28/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: Hebrew "Nominative",
C. Stirling Bartholomew, 09/29/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: Hebrew "Nominative", Peter Kirk, 09/29/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: Hebrew "Nominative",
C. Stirling Bartholomew, 09/29/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: Hebrew "Nominative", Dave Washburn, 09/28/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: Hebrew "Nominative",
Peter Kirk, 09/28/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: Hebrew "Nominative",
C. Stirling Bartholomew, 09/28/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: Hebrew "Nominative",
Peter Kirk, 09/28/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: Hebrew "Nominative",
David Kummerow, 09/28/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: Hebrew "Nominative", C. Stirling Bartholomew, 09/29/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: Hebrew "Nominative", C. Stirling Bartholomew, 09/29/2004
- [b-hebrew] Re: Hebrew "Nominative", David Kummerow, 09/29/2004
- [b-hebrew] Re: Hebrew "Nominative", lehmann, 09/29/2004
- [b-hebrew] Re: Hebrew "Nominative", lehmann, 09/29/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: Hebrew "Nominative", Karl Randolph, 09/30/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: Hebrew "Nominative",
C. Stirling Bartholomew, 09/28/2004
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