Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Karl Randolph" <kwrandolph AT email.com>]

Clay:

This discussion is not only incomprehensible to third year sem students, but 
I find it difficult to follow as well.

Look at the context!

In particular verses 21 and following of this chapter show that this was a 
contest where there was only one ”winner“. And when the fire came down from 
heaven and burned so hot that even the stones were consumed, the people 
responded to the sight by saying YHWH HW) H)LHYM  [YHWH he is God] with the 
HW) indicating the emphatic.

I see no pleonasm here, other than the indication that the people were 
repeating the sentence.

Honestly, I think you grammarians often add complexity where the context 
indicates simplicity.

Karl W. Randolph.

----- Original Message -----
From: "C. Stirling Bartholomew" <jacksonpollock AT earthlink.net>

> On 9/28/04 4:26 PM, "David Kummerow" <farmerjoeblo AT hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Consequently, these clauses are best viewed as having a
> > detached or pendens phrase; and depending on whose theory you want to run
> > with, the phrase is either topicalised, focused or contasted 
> > (alternatively
> > kontrasted).
> > 
> > Your examples might then translate into Engish as:
> > 
> > "As for Esau, he is Edom" and "As for Yahweh, he is God".
> > 
> > What do you make of this?
> 
> David,
> 
> Using what was at hand,  I read Waltke/O'Conner (16.3.1-3). What strikes me
> about all of this is how incomprehensible it would be to a third year
> seminary student. ...
> 
> Thanks for all the discussion.
> 
> 
> greetings,
> Clay Bartholomew

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