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- From: "Michael Abernathy" <mabernathy AT isot.com>
- To: "B-Hebrew" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: [b-hebrew] OT: a link about Modern Hebrew
- Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 16:54:08 -0500
Let me see if I understand your position. A Jewish boy from Nazareth started
a sect in the national boundaries of the Jewish people but His disciples
were not Jews?? These same disciples in manufacturing their history included
a scandal concerning one of the leaders of that sect because he brought
Gentiles into the sect without first converting them to Judaism. Further,
these disciples continued to debate the importance of the Torah to the
Gentiles for several decades. I will not speak for the other members of this
list but I find this scenario laughable.
Now, concerning your comment that they garbled quotations I think several
things must be considered. First, it appears from early translations of the
New Testament into Greek and Aramaic that the translators commonly quoted
from the version of the Scriptures their audience was used to. Second, there
is evidence that Hebrew manuscripts were not as uniform as they are today.
Which means that we cannot always tell whether a quotation was from a
divergent form of the text or if it came from the LXX. Third, there is a
debate among scholars as to which language the people of Israel spoke. Most
have argued that they spoke Aramaic. Others argue that they spoke Hebrew.
We do know that copies of the Scripture have been found in Aramaic. We also
know that there was a section of Jerusalem where the Jews were well
acquainted with Greek. When two or more translations of Scripture are held
to be authoritative, it would be quite natural for the believers to
paraphrase
Sincerely,
Michael Abernathy
>>I may understand when the earliest Christians, not well-acquianted with
the
>>Tanakh, put much stock in the title messiah. But I'm puzzled why this
title
>>is of importance to you.
>You seem to have a misunderstanding about who the earliest Christians were.
The earliest Christians were Jews. Gentiles were not initially included in
the membership of the church. While it is true that some of them may not
have been well versed in the scripture, some of them were very well
educated.<
>>Surely, very odd Jews those have been. They did not know Tanakh, cited
garbled quotations of the verses the should have studied in childhood (if
you know about bar Sheta reforms) and were unobservant. Wishful thinking
Sincerely,
Vadim Cherny
>>
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From: "VC" <vadim_lv AT center-tv.net>
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Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] OT: a link about Modern Hebrew
VADIM>I take this as a positive development when they pay less attention to
saga.
Nakh as theology is Pharisaic innovation.
YIGAL >It's actually a Christian invention.
so Nakh is not theology ? so what is the Nakh then ?
Celal Berker
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Re: [b-hebrew] OT: a link about Modern Hebrew
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Re: [b-hebrew] OT: a link about Modern Hebrew,
Yigal Levin, 06/08/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] OT: a link about Modern Hebrew, VC, 06/09/2004
- [b-hebrew] OT: a link about Modern Hebrew, Myshalom777, 06/08/2004
- [b-hebrew] OT: a link about Modern Hebrew, Myshalom777, 06/08/2004
- Fwd: [b-hebrew] OT: a link about Modern Hebrew, Myshalom777, 06/08/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] OT: a link about Modern Hebrew,
George F. Somsel, 06/08/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] OT: a link about Modern Hebrew, VC, 06/08/2004
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Fwd: [b-hebrew] OT: a link about Modern Hebrew,
Myshalom777, 06/08/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] OT: a link about Modern Hebrew,
VC, 06/08/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] OT: a link about Modern Hebrew, Yigal Levin, 06/08/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] OT: a link about Modern Hebrew,
VC, 06/08/2004
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[b-hebrew] OT: a link about Modern Hebrew,
Michael Abernathy, 06/08/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] OT: a link about Modern Hebrew, VC, 06/09/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] OT: a link about Modern Hebrew,
George F. Somsel, 06/09/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] OT: a link about Modern Hebrew, Noam Eitan, 06/09/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] OT: a link about Modern Hebrew,
George F. Somsel, 06/09/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] OT: a link about Modern Hebrew, VC, 06/09/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] OT: a link about Modern Hebrew, Noam Eitan, 06/09/2004
- [b-hebrew] OT: a link about Modern Hebrew, Michael Abernathy, 06/09/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] OT: a link about Modern Hebrew,
Karl Randolph, 06/09/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] OT: a link about Modern Hebrew, Peter Kirk, 06/10/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] OT: a link about Modern Hebrew,
Yigal Levin, 06/08/2004
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