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- From: "A. Philip Brown II" <pbrown AT GBS.EDU>
- To: "UUC" <unikom AT paco.net>, <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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- Subject: RE: [b-hebrew] Prophetic Perfect? Psalm 107
- Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 15:19:56 -0400
This strikes me as a fine case of assuming that the normal use(s) of a given
verb form are the "correct" grammar, and the exceptions are errors. This is
certainly an unwarranted assumption, particularly in light of the fact that
these "scribal errors" are normally not corrected in any Heb. mss we have,
but are regarded as an accurate transmission of the received text.
Regards,
Philip Brown
Cincinnati, OH
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> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Prophetic Perfect? Psalm 107
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>
> Dear Ken,
>
> Tanakhic grammar is not always strict.
> There is a certain percentage of incorrect or loose usage of
> prepositions -
> and, certainly, of the verb tenses. I guess you would encounter about the
> same ratio of errors both in the simple tenses in in wa's and we's. These
> are the scribal errors, not refutation of the tenses. I don't
> think medieval
> English always uses tenses correctly, but you won't argue on existense of
> tenses there.
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Vadim Cherny
>
>
>
> > Am I understanding you correctly, Liz, that you think in Biblical Hebrew
> > QATALs and WAYYIQTOLs are always absolute past (the event precedes the
> > speech), and YIQTOLs and WEQATALs are always future or jussive
> (the speech
> > precedes the event)?
> >
> > Ken Penner, M.C.S. (Biblical Languages, Greek Focus), M.A.
> (Hebrew Poetry)
> > Ph.D. (cand.), McMaster University
> > pennerkm AT mcmaster.ca
> > Hebrew vocabulary software: http://s91279732.onlinehome.us/flash or
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flash_pro/join
> >
> > > I don't see a problem in the psalm. I would translate the
> > > verbs the way
> > > I always do: The WAYYIKTOBs, and KATABs are narrative past, the
> > > YIKTOBs, WEYIKTOBs are either future or jussive.
> >
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RE: [b-hebrew] Prophetic Perfect? Jer. 50.
, (continued)
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RE: [b-hebrew] Prophetic Perfect? Jer. 50.,
Lisbeth S. Fried, 05/19/2004
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RE: [b-hebrew] Prophetic Perfect? Jer. 50.,
furuli, 05/19/2004
- RE: [b-hebrew] Prophetic Perfect? Jer. 50., Lisbeth S. Fried, 05/19/2004
- RE: [b-hebrew] Prophetic Perfect? Psalm 107, Ken Penner, 05/20/2004
- RE: [b-hebrew] Prophetic Perfect? Psalm 107, Lisbeth S. Fried, 05/20/2004
- RE: [b-hebrew] Prophetic Perfect? Psalm 107, Ken Penner, 05/20/2004
- RE: [b-hebrew] Prophetic Perfect? Psalm 107, Lisbeth S. Fried, 05/20/2004
- RE: [b-hebrew] Prophetic Perfect? Psalm 107:18-21, Ken Penner, 05/20/2004
- RE: [b-hebrew] Prophetic Perfect? Psalm 107:18-21, Lisbeth S. Fried, 05/20/2004
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RE: [b-hebrew] Prophetic Perfect? Jer. 50.,
furuli, 05/19/2004
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RE: [b-hebrew] Prophetic Perfect? Jer. 50.,
Lisbeth S. Fried, 05/19/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Prophetic Perfect? Psalm 107, UUC, 05/20/2004
- RE: [b-hebrew] Prophetic Perfect? Psalm 107, A. Philip Brown II, 05/20/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Prophetic Perfect? Psalm 107, UUC, 05/20/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Prophetic Perfect? Psalm 107, furuli, 05/20/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Prophetic Perfect? Psalm 107, UUC, 05/21/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Prophetic Perfect? Psalm 107, furuli, 05/21/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Prophetic Perfect? Psalm 107, furuli, 05/21/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Prophetic Perfect? Psalm 107, UUC, 05/21/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Prophetic Perfect? Psalm 107, furuli, 05/21/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Prophetic Perfect? Psalm 107, UUC, 05/21/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Prophetic Perfect? Psalm 107, Peter Kirk, 05/22/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Prophetic Perfect? Psalm 107, furuli, 05/22/2004
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