Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Harold R. Holmyard III" <hholmyard AT ont.com>]

Dear Vadim,

The Dictionary of Classical Hebrew lists four homonymn (homograph) 
verbs with the form HLL. The word MHLL in Isa 53:5 is from the HLL 
that means "be pierced." It is attested at a number of verses, and 
the form in Isa 53:5 is a POAL form, which is a passive conjugation 
similar to the Pual. It is a masculine singular participle.

                                Yours,
                                Harold Holmyard

> Perhaps anyone would care to discuss the word "pierced" in Isaiah 53?
> Let's talk about the difference between halal, mehulal and meholal, 
> and perhaps between "killed" and "pierced."
> Pure grammar, no ideology.
> Any takers?
> From peterkirk AT qaya.org  Wed May 19 15:14:34 2004
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On 19/05/2004 10:40, Lisbeth S. Fried wrote:

> Dear Rolf,
> I don't agree that Jeremiah 50 speaks about a future event.
> That katav is used in fact demonstrates that Jer. 50 is about
> a past event not about a future event.
> Now you assume that it is about a future event because you
> say that Jeremiah lived in the time of Zedekiah and that
> the fall of Babylon didn't occur until the time of Cyrus.
> I don't assume this however. I assume that a later
> writer added to the book of Jeremiah and wrote about a past 
> event.
> You switch the meanings of the verbs around to conform to
> your hypothesis that these are all the exact words of the 
> prophet who gives his name to the book.
> Liz Fried
> Ann Arbor
>
>
>
>  
Well, if (as you seem to suggest) a later writer added to the book of 
Jeremiah words which purported to be Jeremiah's predictions of the fall 
of Babylon, he or she was very incompetent if he or she used for these 
predictions a verb form with a past meaning! These past verb forms, if 
they could not be understood as a prophetic perfect, would have been a 
dead giveaway that these purported predictions were written after the event.

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Peter Kirk
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