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- From: "UUC" <unikom AT paco.net>
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- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53
- Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 00:24:28 +0300
Thanks for bringing it up, Liz. I changed the phrase to:
And he gave the wicked his tomb, and the rich - his altars
Best regards,
Vadim
>
> > Dear Liz,
> >
> > I've also thought of a simple example to illustrate absence
> > of the dating case preposition. There is a perfect analogy in English:
> >
> > he gave his tomb to the wicked
> >
> > but
> >
> > he gave the wicked his tomb
> >
> > without "to" - or le
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Vadim
>
> This is called the Great Dative Shift in English.
> At some point the dative shifted from the end of the
> sentence (in which the preposition was required)
> to right after the verb and the preposition was dropped.
> It still is the dative tho.
> Also, the fact that the Greek uses the accusative case
> means that they are reading )et, not )it.
> But I can't translate it without putting it in the accusative
> myself, so there you are.
> As for the past tense, I object to the notion of a prophetic
> perfect. People who translate these by the future are
> reading their own hopes and dreams into the text. A
> very unreliable way to proceed. Isaiah 9:1 was offered
> as an example. Those are perfects and refer to the
> events of Tiglath-Pileser III.
> Liz Fried
> A2
>
>
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[b-hebrew] Isaiah 53
, (continued)
- [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53, UUC, 05/18/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53,
Karl Randolph, 05/18/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53,
UUC, 05/18/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53,
Peter Kirk, 05/18/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53, UUC, 05/18/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53,
Peter Kirk, 05/18/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53,
UUC, 05/18/2004
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[b-hebrew] Isaiah 53,
UUC, 05/18/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 05/18/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53, UUC, 05/18/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 05/18/2004
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[b-hebrew] Isaiah 53,
UUC, 05/18/2004
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RE: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53,
Lisbeth S. Fried, 05/18/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53, UUC, 05/18/2004
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RE: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53,
Lisbeth S. Fried, 05/18/2004
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[b-hebrew] Isaiah 53,
, 05/18/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53, UUC, 05/19/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53, Harold R. Holmyard III, 05/19/2004
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