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  • From: Peter Kirk <peterkirk AT qaya.org>
  • To: acantley AT iname.com
  • Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53: In his death?
  • Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 12:56:22 -0700

On 15/05/2004 12:15, al cantley wrote:

...

In Psalm 110:1, 5 it is clear that at least 2 YHWH's are mentioned in
OT Scriptures. The "lord" referred to in verse 1 at YHWH's right hand is
identified in verse 5 as YHWH also (one of the 134 emendations of the
scribes). ...


I'm not sure where you get this from, unless you have been confused by the New Testament quotations of verse 1 which use the same word KURIOS for YHWH and ADON. The personal references in the psalm seem clear: there is one YHWH, also called ADONAY in v.5 in some texts, who is speaking and promising help to the human "my lord" (ADON) of v.1 who is referred to as "you" in the rest of the psalm. No sign of a second YHWH.

... Another instance that seems to me to imply this is Zech 12:10:
(KJV) Zechariah 12:10 and they shall look upon me whom they
have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his
only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in
bitterness for his firstborn. It appears to me that the "me" and the "him" cannot refer to the same
person/entity; but because of my limited Hebrew understanding I request
some help.


Well, it looks to me from the Hebrew as if the "him" must be the same as the one "whom they have pierced", and the oddity here is how the "me" fits in. But the grammar doesn't suggest the death of two different people. Hebrew is not as consistent in its use of personal pronouns as we expect English to be.

Looking for other "witnesses" from the NT, I find several. ...


The rest of this is surely off topic for this list.


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