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- From: "Karl Randolph" <kwrandolph AT email.com>
- To: "Hebrew" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Re: 22nd Psalm & 40th Psalm
- Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:34:10 -0500
Yigal:
KRH means to provide, furnish. It does not specify the means by which the
provision is made. In Hosea 3:2 and Deuteronomy 2:6 the provision is through
purchase. In Genesis 50:5 again no digging was involved in that he was buried
in a natural cave that was on the property in which his father and
grandfather were buried. In 2 Kings 6:23 that which was provided was a meal,
or provisions? In 2 Kings 12:6 the participial form is used for provisions
for those who are on duty, in this case priests in the temple. True, it is
often used for providing or furnishing a pit or well, but as can be seen
above, digging is not part of the definition of the word itself, but the
unspoken means by which the provision is often made. In an English context
not connected with Tanakh, I have seen the sentence We provided a well for
him.
What is the best way to translate the term in each context? Ill leave that
for translators.
As for K)RY, I dont deny the possibility that something may have been lost,
a copiest error perhaps, but as the text presently stands as a lion does
not fit. We can speculate, but I am looking for evidence.
Karl W. Randolph.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yigal Levin" <leviny1 AT mail.biu.ac.il>
> Hi Karl,
>
> >
> > I hesitated getting involved in this discussion because of its obvious
> theological overtones. But there are a couple of linguistic notes to mark.
>
> That's what we're here for.
> >
> > KRH as a verb seems to have the meaning of "to provide, to furnish".
>
> Not that I see. Why "provide"?
>
> >It does not specify how the provision is made. In the case of providing a
> well, it is >done by digging, though the "by digging" is left out of texts
> such as Gen. 26:25, Ex. >21:33. In Pr. 16:27 that which is provided is
> displeasure.
>
> There is no way that you can know what the verb Koreh in Pr. 16:27 means. "A
> bad man _____ evil". Fill in the blank. "Provides"? Why not "digs"? or
> "causes"?
>
> >In Ps 40:7 it is ears that are provided. In this I agree with you.
> KRH would not have been used for the heart. It is used for ears, since they
> are cavities that God "dug" in our bodies.
>
> >
> > K)R in Ps 22:17 (16 in English) is in the place where one would expect to
> find a verb, as you mentioned below. As for what it means, there is too
> little context in Tanakh to give a certain understanding. As the text
> presently stands, the meaning "as a lion" does not fit. Are there any clues
> from cognate languages?
> >
>
> "Lion" does fit the general context of being surrounded by beasties, but not
> the syntax. Maybe the verb was lost: "As a lion, they _____ my hands and
> feet"?
>
> Yigal
>
> > Karl W. Randolph.
> >
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: 22nd Psalm & 40th Psalm,
Karl Randolph, 11/27/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: 22nd Psalm & 40th Psalm, Peter Kirk, 11/28/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: 22nd Psalm & 40th Psalm, Yigal Levin, 11/28/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: 22nd Psalm & 40th Psalm,
Karl Randolph, 11/28/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: 22nd Psalm & 40th Psalm,
Peter Kirk, 11/28/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: 22nd Psalm & 40th Psalm, Peter Kirk, 11/28/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: 22nd Psalm & 40th Psalm,
Peter Kirk, 11/28/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: 22nd Psalm & 40th Psalm,
Karl Randolph, 11/28/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: 22nd Psalm & 40th Psalm,
Yigal Levin, 11/29/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] 22nd Psalm & 40th Psalm,
Jason Hare, 11/29/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] 22nd Psalm & 40th Psalm,
Yigal Levin, 11/30/2003
- [b-hebrew] Ben Sirah, S. L., 11/30/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] 22nd Psalm & 40th Psalm,
Yigal Levin, 11/30/2003
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[b-hebrew] Re: 22nd Psalm & 40th Psalm,
jucci, 11/30/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: 22nd Psalm & 40th Psalm, Jason Hare, 11/30/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] 22nd Psalm & 40th Psalm,
Jason Hare, 11/29/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: 22nd Psalm & 40th Psalm,
Yigal Levin, 11/29/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: 22nd Psalm & 40th Psalm, Karl Randolph, 11/28/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: 22nd Psalm & 40th Psalm,
Karl Randolph, 11/28/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: 22nd Psalm & 40th Psalm, Yigal Levin, 11/29/2003
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