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- From: "Yigal Levin" <leviny1 AT mail.biu.ac.il>
- To: "Hebrew" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Re: 22nd Psalm & 40th Psalm
- Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 14:12:33 +0200
Hi Karl,
>
> I hesitated getting involved in this discussion because of its obvious
theological overtones. But there are a couple of linguistic notes to mark.
That's what we're here for.
>
> KRH as a verb seems to have the meaning of "to provide, to furnish".
Not that I see. Why "provide"?
>It does not specify how the provision is made. In the case of providing a
well, it is >done by digging, though the "by digging" is left out of texts
such as Gen. 26:25, Ex. >21:33. In Pr. 16:27 that which is provided is
displeasure.
There is no way that you can know what the verb Koreh in Pr. 16:27 means. "A
bad man _____ evil". Fill in the blank. "Provides"? Why not "digs"? or
"causes"?
>In Ps 40:7 it is ears that are provided. In this I agree with you.
KRH would not have been used for the heart. It is used for ears, since they
are cavities that God "dug" in our bodies.
>
> K)R in Ps 22:17 (16 in English) is in the place where one would expect to
find a verb, as you mentioned below. As for what it means, there is too
little context in Tanakh to give a certain understanding. As the text
presently stands, the meaning "as a lion" does not fit. Are there any clues
from cognate languages?
>
"Lion" does fit the general context of being surrounded by beasties, but not
the syntax. Maybe the verb was lost: "As a lion, they _____ my hands and
feet"?
Yigal
> Karl W. Randolph.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yigal Levin" <leviny1 AT mail.biu.ac.il>
>
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > The following points:
> > 1. The verb KRH/KRY means "to dig", NOT "to pierce". To pierce one's ear
is
> > RC(, as in Exod. 21:6.
> > 2. In the wider context of Ps. 22, the speaker is surrounded by bad
animals:
> > bulls, lions (v. 14 [13 in English]), dogs and bad folk in our verse,
and
> > again dogs, lions and "reemim" (whatever they are) a few verses down. SO
> > "like lions" makes perfect sense here.
> > 3. However, IF K)RY is "like (a/the) lion", the verb is missing. "my
hands
> > and feet ARE like lions" doesn't fit the context - I'd expect something
like
> > "TPSW" - "like a lion they caught my hands and feet". But that's not in
the
> > text. Which may be why the vorlage of the DDS and the LXX had KRW - to
> > supply a verb. But what does "piercing hand and feet" mean IN THIS
CONTEXT,
> > unless it's about Jesus. Which it's not (at least, "king David" didn't
think
> > it was...).
> > 4. The way I read Ps. 40:7 is, since God created us with ears to hear
and to
> > understand, He does not want sacrifices. KRYT, "you dug" here does not
refer
> > to opening up ears that were closed, but to the original creation of
ears in
> > our bodies.
> >
> >
> > Yigal
> >
>
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: 22nd Psalm & 40th Psalm,
Karl Randolph, 11/27/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: 22nd Psalm & 40th Psalm, Peter Kirk, 11/28/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: 22nd Psalm & 40th Psalm, Yigal Levin, 11/28/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: 22nd Psalm & 40th Psalm,
Karl Randolph, 11/28/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: 22nd Psalm & 40th Psalm,
Peter Kirk, 11/28/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: 22nd Psalm & 40th Psalm, Peter Kirk, 11/28/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: 22nd Psalm & 40th Psalm,
Peter Kirk, 11/28/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: 22nd Psalm & 40th Psalm,
Karl Randolph, 11/28/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: 22nd Psalm & 40th Psalm,
Yigal Levin, 11/29/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] 22nd Psalm & 40th Psalm,
Jason Hare, 11/29/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] 22nd Psalm & 40th Psalm,
Yigal Levin, 11/30/2003
- [b-hebrew] Ben Sirah, S. L., 11/30/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] 22nd Psalm & 40th Psalm,
Yigal Levin, 11/30/2003
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[b-hebrew] Re: 22nd Psalm & 40th Psalm,
jucci, 11/30/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: 22nd Psalm & 40th Psalm, Jason Hare, 11/30/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] 22nd Psalm & 40th Psalm,
Jason Hare, 11/29/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: 22nd Psalm & 40th Psalm,
Yigal Levin, 11/29/2003
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