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- From: Kaz <alethinon61 AT milwpc.com>
- To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Re: nephesh mot
- Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 19:08:09 -0500
> [Peter
> >>The trouble with this is that, even if we use accept your model, there
> >>is minimal overlap between the fuzzy Hebrew concept of NEPE$ and average
> >>English speakers' even more fuzzy concept of soul.
> >>
> [Kaz]
> >Here you have a very good point, for the average modern English speaking
> >person has had his concept of "soul" tainted by centuries of extra-biblical
> >teaching that is based more on Platonic dualism than anything else.
> >However, this is, in fact, a compelling reason for accepting Rolf's model
> >of
> >translation, for his model allows Bible students to decide for themselves
> >whether ancient Jewish beliefs were a foregleam of Plato, or not.
> >
> [Peter] Well, a few people will be capable of and motivated for study in
> sufficient depth to decide this for themselves, but most will tend to
> rely on their own understanding of the word in context, which is
> probably misleading. I think it would have been better to transliterate
> "nephesh" in an English text rather than use "soul", because that would
> force users to do their own research or refer to study notes rather than
> to insert their own probably inappropriate understanding of the word.
I just want to say that I think transliterating "nephesh" would be an
_excellent_
idea, and I would very much like to see this approach adopted by Bible
translators. I also think that using "soul" is a fine approach, as long as
appropriate footnotes and a detailed appendix is included to elaborate on the
Hebrew concept of "soul" (as opposed to the Greek concept [and, of course,
such
an appendix would be required whether one chooses to employ "soul" our
"nephesh"]), but I really like the idea of transliterating the Hebrew NEPE$ as
"nephesh". This would eliminate the problem of students reading preconceived
ideas back into the text, and would tend to force them to thoughtfully
consider
what side of NEPE$ is in view in any given occurrence.
-Sean (a/k/a Kaz)
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: nephesh mot
, (continued)
- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: nephesh mot, Dave Washburn, 08/23/2003
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[b-hebrew] Re: nephesh mot,
furuli, 08/24/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: nephesh mot,
Peter Kirk, 08/24/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: nephesh mot,
Peter Kirk, 08/25/2003
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[b-hebrew] Re: nephesh mot,
furuli, 08/25/2003
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- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: nephesh mot, furuli, 08/25/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: nephesh mot, Peter Kirk, 08/25/2003
- [b-hebrew] Re: nephesh mot, furuli, 08/26/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: nephesh mot, Jonathan D. Safren, 08/26/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: nephesh mot, Peter Kirk, 08/26/2003
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[b-hebrew] Re: nephesh mot,
furuli, 08/25/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: nephesh mot,
Peter Kirk, 08/25/2003
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- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: nephesh mot, Kaz, 08/25/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] Re: nephesh mot,
Peter Kirk, 08/24/2003
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