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- From: "Cohen, Izzy" <Izzy_Cohen AT bmc.com>
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- Subject: [b-hebrew] Genesis 1:2 tohu ubohu
- Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 02:42:43 -0500
"Karl Randolph" <kwrandolph AT email.com> wrote:
> In Genesis 1:2 there is the phrase thw wbhw (tohu ubohu), ...
> Tohu occurs about 20 times in Tenakh. From its contexts I get
> the impression that it refers to lifeless, as in uninhabited...
> I get the impression that bohu refers to the stillness of an
> uninhabited (by humans) place. (The opposite is a crowd,
> referred to as a "hubbub" (hmwn) for its constant restless
> motion and noise.)
> Hence, ... "And the earth came into being lifeless (uninhabited)
> and still, and darkness upon the face of the depths...
"Liz Fried" <lizfried AT umich.edu> wrote (twice):
1 > Dear Karl, You are completely correct! (Pace Jim West!)
2 > What you are missing is the agonizing arguments we've had
> over this verse for the past several years.
I have also missed these arguments. But I essentially agree
with Karl and Liz and will say why.
I believe the Hebrew heh once had a DH sound, that is:
aleph, bet, gimel, dalet, dalet-heh (together). This
may explain why the prefix heh is the "definite article"
in Hebrew.
The B-sound and M-sound are reversals of each other and
often exchange across languages. Compare Hebrew BoGeR
and Latin MaJoR. Or BeiS-3oLaM and mausoleum. The "Rashi"
bet looks almost like an M turned 90 degrees clockwise.
Giving the heh a DH/TH sound and the bet an mB/Mb sound
produces ToDHu uMboDHu.
ToDHu cognate: OHG & German Tod = death; tot = dead.
MoDHu cognate: Latin mutus = mute
mute
1. silent
2. not emitting or having sound of any kind.
still
2. free from sound or noise.
4. free from turbulence or commotion
8. calmness or silence: the still of the night.
In many words with an ancient heh=DH, it seems that Hebrew
has replaced that heh with a dalet while other languages
have retained the "heh" and allowed it to become sounded
as H. For example, in Greek:
dalet-mem (blood) = hemo-
dalet-mem-mem (bleed) = hymen
aleph-dalet-mem (man, person) = homo
For a retained DH sound in Greek, compare:
aleph-dalet-[mem-heh] (ground, earth, soil) = chthon > Latin humus
dalet-gimel (fish) <=reversed=> ichthy-
dosh kham,
Israel Cohen
izzy_cohen AT bmc.com
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Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 1:2 tohu ubohu
, (continued)
- Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 1:2 tohu ubohu, B. M. Rocine, 05/21/2003
- RE: [b-hebrew] Genesis 1:2 tohu ubohu, Liz Fried, 05/21/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 1:2 tohu ubohu, Jim West, 05/21/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 1:2 tohu ubohu, Karl Randolph, 05/21/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 1:2 tohu ubohu,
Karl Randolph, 05/22/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 1:2 tohu ubohu, B. M. Rocine, 05/22/2003
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RE: [b-hebrew] Genesis 1:2 tohu ubohu,
Karl Randolph, 05/22/2003
- RE: [b-hebrew] Genesis 1:2 tohu ubohu, Liz Fried, 05/22/2003
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RE: [b-hebrew] Genesis 1:2 tohu ubohu,
Jim West, 05/22/2003
- RE: [b-hebrew] Genesis 1:2 tohu ubohu, Liz Fried, 05/22/2003
- [b-hebrew] Genesis 1:2 tohu ubohu, Cohen, Izzy, 05/24/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 1:2 tohu ubohu, Karl Randolph, 05/25/2003
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