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Re: The Case Against a Hellenistic Primary History
- From: "Ian Hutchesson" <mc2499 AT mclink.it>
- To: "Biblical Hebrew" <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
- Subject: Re: The Case Against a Hellenistic Primary History
- Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 00:16:40 +0200
>There is perhaps an even better clue on the same lines in the language of
>the "Primary History" which throws severe doubt on a Hellenistic date for
>it. If this were its date, one would expect to find in it a significant
>number of loan words from Greek, and from Persian which influenced Hebrew at
>an earlier stage.
It would be nice if one noted the stock of Greek influenced linguistic
indications in the DSS: none (that I know of) to indicate that the Jews
had been immersed in Greek culture for the previous few hundred years.
Unfortunately, Walter's (and apparently now Peter's) basic position can
be seen as demonstrably wrong. We know basically when the DSS were
produced, though perhaps people of Walter's and Peter's opinion would
now like to redate the scrolls to prior to the Greek period, so as to
explain why there are no apparent Greek linguistic indications in the
DSS.
>From what I remember, although there are a few Greek loan
>words in the Aramaic of Daniel and many Persian loan words in the books
>relating post-exilic history, there are none at all in the Primary History.
>This would indeed be remarkable if this was a composition from Hellenistic
>times; even if a scribe was careful to avoid Greek loan words, it is
>unlikely that he would recognise all Persian loan words, which would have
>been in Hebrew already for several hundred years, especially as most likely
>such scribes would not know any Persian.
Daniel was partially set in Persian times, so one would expect some
attempt at Persian traits, as there were apparent attempts at Persian
chancelry Aramaic. What content is there in DSS texts? Qimron (The
Hebrew of the DSS) lists *six* in total, adding "apparently borrowed
through Aramaic". One shouldn't expect to see any Persian loan words
present in texts written in Hebrew, unless there were some good reason.
Ian
-
The Case Against a Hellenistic Primary History,
Walter Mattfeld, 10/02/2001
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- RE: The Case Against a Hellenistic Primary History, Peter Kirk, 10/02/2001
- Re: The Case Against a Hellenistic Primary History, Greg Jordan, 10/02/2001
- Re: The Case Against a Hellenistic Primary History, Will Wagers, 10/02/2001
- The Case Against a Hellenistic Primary History, Walter Mattfeld, 10/05/2001
- Re: The Case Against a Hellenistic Primary History, Ian Hutchesson, 10/05/2001
- SV: The Case Against a Hellenistic Primary History, Thomas L. Thompson, 10/05/2001
- The Case Against a Hellenistic Primary History, Walter Mattfeld, 10/12/2001
- RE: The Case Against a Hellenistic Primary History, Peter Kirk, 10/12/2001
- Re: The Case Against a Hellenistic Primary History, Ian Hutchesson, 10/12/2001
- RE: The Case Against a Hellenistic Primary History, Peter Kirk, 10/12/2001
- Re: The Case Against a Hellenistic Primary History, Ian Hutchesson, 10/12/2001
- RE: The Case Against a Hellenistic Primary History, Peter Kirk, 10/13/2001
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