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- From: "Trevor & Julie Peterson" <speederson AT erols.com>
- To: "Biblical Hebrew" <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
- Subject: RE: I AM
- Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 22:11:51 -0400
It's an interesting suggestion, and one that I've never heard. But I don't
know that I'm sold on it just yet. First, it seems like the standard way to
identify oneself in BH is through a verbless clause:
)a:NI or )aaNooKI + PN. Granted, if He had said, )a:NI )eHYE, this would be
potentially confused with the usual construction for a general present; but
I suppose it's questionable whether anyone would have seriously expected a
general present ("I exist as a general rule") used in an assertion of
self-existence, so the oddity would probably have suggested some other
meaning. The follow-up instruction, which uses
)eHYE as a fronted subject, would also help to clarify that it is
functioning as a noun, rather than a verb. For that matter, I would think a
clearer statement on the order of the follow-up instruction would have
sufficed to make the point. I'm not saying your suggestion is out of the
question, but you have to admit that it's an odd way to form a predication.
Do you know of any other instances where )a:$eR is used this way?
Trevor Peterson
CUA/Semitics
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> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 2:59 PM
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> Subject: Re: I AM
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> Rather, the name is simply "I
> AM" and the _asher_ clause serves merely to subordinate. It would
> not be appropriate to use an _)ETH_ as the sign of subordination
> for the verb, nor could any preposition go before a verb. But
> something had to show subordiation or rather identification of
> the predicate, so the function word _)aSHER_ is used to indicate
> a clause. Had it been some other (non-verbal) name, we would
> expect simply _)EHYEH_ followed by the predicate noun/adjective.
>
> So we should correctly translate it "I am I AM." This is
> supported by the following verse where he says simply "I AM has sent me."
>
> Dan Wagner
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Re: I AM
, (continued)
- Re: I AM, GregStffrd, 05/02/2001
- Re: I AM, Charles David Isbell, 05/02/2001
- Re: I AM, uri hurwitz, 05/02/2001
- Re: I AM, Penner, 05/02/2001
- Fw: I AM, Shoshanna Walker, 05/02/2001
- Re: Fw: I AM, Dave Washburn, 05/02/2001
- Re: I AM, Daniel Wagner, 05/02/2001
- Re: I AM, Karen Spray, 05/02/2001
- RE: I AM, Liz Fried, 05/02/2001
- RE: I AM, Tony Prete, 05/02/2001
- RE: I AM, Trevor & Julie Peterson, 05/02/2001
- RE: I AM, Trevor & Julie Peterson, 05/02/2001
- Re: I AM, JWE, 05/02/2001
- RE: I AM, Shoshanna Walker, 05/02/2001
- re: I AM, David Stabnow, 05/03/2001
- re: I AM, Shoshanna Walker, 05/03/2001
- re: I AM, Dave Washburn, 05/03/2001
- Re: I AM, Bearpecs, 05/04/2001
- Re: Fw: I AM, Bearpecs, 05/04/2001
- Re: I AM, Bearpecs, 05/04/2001
- Re: I AM, Bearpecs, 05/04/2001
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