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- From: "Mark Wilson" <emory2002 AT hotmail.com>
- To: b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu
- Subject: Gen 2:17: Dying thou shalt die
- Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 18:08:10 GMT
Gen 2:17 seems to be:
...dying you shall die...
which is generally translated "you shall surely die."
Q1. What is the Hebrew "tense" here?
"you shall" looks like a Future (at least in English).
Q2. Assuming no idiom was intended, are we left with:
"dying (process) you shall die (event)?
In other words, could one expand this to:
"while in the process of dying, you shall (also, in a sense) die"
This would then be "interpreted" to mean:
"While in the process of physically dying (which begins immediately),
you shall spiritually die (immediately, as well).
Hence, God meant exactly what He said. They sinned; they
immediately died (both physically, which is a process; and
spiritually, which is not a process but an event).
To me, spiritual death is nothing more than some kind
of "separation" from the original relationship. Spiritual
separation (death) does not seem to me to imply
"totally abandon." I do not find it odd that God was
still very much active in the relationship, but there
was some estrangement.
Just looking for comments.
Thank you,
Mark Wilson
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Gen 2:17: Dying thou shalt die,
Bill Ross, 08/19/2000
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- RE: Gen 2:17: Dying thou shalt die, Bill Ross, 08/20/2000
- Re: Gen 2:17: Dying thou shalt die, Dave Washburn, 08/20/2000
- Re: Gen 2:17: Dying thou shalt die, Steve Doel, 08/21/2000
- Re: Gen 2:17: Dying thou shalt die, Peter Kirk, 08/21/2000
- SV: Gen 2:17: Dying thou shalt die, Thomas L. Thompson, 08/21/2000
- RE: Gen 2:17: Dying thou shalt die, Bill Ross, 08/21/2000
- RE: Gen 2:17: Dying thou shalt die, Liz Fried, 08/21/2000
- RE: Gen 2:17: Dying thou shalt die, Jim West, 08/21/2000
- RE: Gen 2:17: Dying thou shalt die, Liz Fried, 08/21/2000
- Gen 2:17: Dying thou shalt die, Mark Wilson, 08/21/2000
- RE: Gen 2:17: Dying thou shalt die, Jim West, 08/21/2000
- RE: Gen 2:17: Dying thou shalt die, Bill Ross, 08/21/2000
- Re: Gen 2:17: Dying thou shalt die, Tsadowq, 08/22/2000
- SV: Gen 2:17: Dying thou shalt die, Thomas L. Thompson, 08/22/2000
- Re: Gen 2:17: Dying thou shalt die, Henry Churchyard, 08/22/2000
- RE: Gen 2:17: Dying thou shalt die, Liz Fried, 08/22/2000
- RE: Gen 2:17: Dying thou shalt die, Liz Fried, 08/22/2000
- RE: Gen 2:17: Dying thou shalt die, Mark Wilson, 08/22/2000
- RE: Gen 2:17: Dying thou shalt die, Kirk Lowery, 08/22/2000
- Re: Gen 2:17: Dying thou shalt die, Jason Hare, 08/23/2000
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