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  • From: Peter_Kirk AT SIL.ORG
  • To: b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu
  • Subject: Re[2]: wayyiqtol test
  • Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 13:09:24 -0500 (EST)



Exodus 4: these uses of wayyiqtol for temporally simultaneous but
logically sequential events (taking WAY.I$:M:(W. in v.31 as referring
to perceiving the words and the deeds together) are not really
convincing to me. Verse 21 need not be a flashback, it could be a new
encounter. I take the geography as implying that the mountain of God
was somewhere on the road between Midian and Egypt.

Gen 4:25: Probably flashback, as I don't think Cain could have had
descendants to the sixth generation in the 130 years of Adam's life
before the birth of Seth (5:3) - a bit too far-fetched, I think. But
then what time sequence was the author thinking of?

Gen 28:7,10: Well, Esau could just about have got married while Jacob
was walking out through the city gate. But far-fetched again!

I could find similar though also far-fetched explanations for your
other examples (50:15 most far-fetched of all!). But I think I must
agree that you have made a good case, from Genesis if not from Exodus.
Now, what does Bryan say about all these?

Peter Kirk


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Subject: Re: wayyiqtol test
Author: ronning AT ilink.nis.za at internet
Date: 19/02/1999 16:26


Peter wrote:

> Dear John,
>
> I accept that you have made a strong case with your Genesis 42 example
> for wayyiqtol not being inherently strictly sequential. I would judge
> that if you could come up with 2-3 other non-sequential cases as
> strong as your number 9 (to reduce the chance that this is a corrupted
> text, a seam between sources, or a simple error) your case is well
> proved.

Dear Peter,

I think it would not be hard to find many more than 2 or 3 more such
examples;
maybe
we can do a few at a time to see if they meet your criteria:

Exodus 4:30
1. wayedabber and Aaron spoke all the words which the LORD
had spoken to Moses.
2. wayya`as He then performed the signs in the sight of the people.
4:31
3. wayya'amen So the people believed;
4. wayyishme`u and they heard that the LORD was concerned about
the sons of Israel and that He had seen their
affliction,
5. wayyiqqedu then they bowed low
6. wayyishtaxawu and worshiped.

If 1 and 2 are sequential, 3 and 4 are backwards (they obviously heard the
words
that
were spoken by Aaron when he spoke them, not somehow after he performed the
sign
s
and
after they believed). Actual sequence - probably 1-2 overlapping, the rest
follow
1-2, with 3-4 overlapping, followed by 5-6.

The last part of Exodus 4 seems to be filled with dischronologies:
4:19 seems to be a flashback (done with wayyomer) to when Moses was on the
mountain
but it's not narrated until he gets ready to leave with his wife and sons.
Then there's another flashback to the mountain in v. 21 (wayyomer again)
after v
.
20
has stated that Moses returned to (or towards) Egypt. wayiqqax in v. 20
would b
e
absurd, taken sequentially (he took the staff after he left?)
Then the biggest flashback of all is after we've had the information about
the
Lord
seeking to kill Moses on his way back to Egypt, and v. 27 tells us (wayyomer
again)
that the Lord told Aaron to go meet Moses on the mountain, and then the verse
go
es
on
to tell us that Aaron met Moses on the mountain (this is the chain that leads
up
to
the verses I started off with).


Gen 4:25 is a flashback with wayyeda` (Adam knew his wife) after tracing
Cain's
descendents down to Lamech - I don't know if you accept this type of example
as
against sequential wayyiqtol since it is a start of the "paragraph" - there
are
many
such examples. E.g. Gen 28:10 wayyece' Ya`akob mibbe'er sheba (acc. to v. 7
Jacob
already left, then vv. 8-9 we have an interluding account of Esau going to
get a
wife
from the house of Ishmael).
Gen 29:24 (wayyitten) probably goes with 29:23 logically, not chronologically
(d
o
we
have to assume that Laban gave Zilpah to Leah after Jacob went into Leah but
before
morning [v. 25]?)
Gen 29:31 wayyar' Yhwh The Lord saw that Leah was "hated" (it didn't take
Him 7
years
[v. 30] to notice, as the following verses make clear)
Gen 37:6 wayyo'mer goes with wayyagged from the previous verse but has to be
prior to
wayyosiphu from the previous verse.
Gen 50:15 wayyir'u 'axey Yoseph ki meth 'abihem (I think it's safe to say
that
Joseph's brothers saw that their father was dead before they took his body to
Canaan
for burial, which is related in the previous verses).

I'll let you digest those for a while, then we'll see if we need to go on.

Yours,

John




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