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  • From: "spiralridgepermaculture@gmail.com" <spiralridgepermaculture@gmail.com>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Who is this?
  • Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 06:18:31 -0600

That is interesting Toby. After Bill closed shop I contacted Scott Pittman
more than once about sending in my paperwork to get my diploma since I
already had done the work. No response, No reply. Upset me to no end. Know
I guess they have it all together?

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Toby Hemenway <toby@patternliteracy.com> wrote:

>There is already a certifying body in the US. In 1997 Bill Mollison and
>Scott Pittman founded the Permaculture Institute USA, a 501c3 non-profit
>based in New Mexico. Scott is director. I am one of the field directors, and
>I use their certificates. As a field director I also mentor people through
>the diploma process. PI-USA has given out a good number of diplomas and many
>hundreds of certificates. Scott doesn't make too much noise about it, but
>they've been quietly doing this work for 15 years. Their main page for
>diplomas and professional practice is at
>
>http://www.permaculture.org/nm/index.php/site/professional_practise_pages
>
>Apparently they haven't been making enough noise if no one knows about them.
>Scott wouldn't mind some help.
>
>PINA was re-started by Jude Hobbs. it was long ago founded by Sego Jackson,
>and went dormant about 20 years ago.
>
>Toby
>http://patternliteracy.com
>
>
>On Feb 26, 2013, at 7:31 PM, spiralridgepermaculture@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> PINA is Permaculture Institute of North America. It is suppose to be up
>> and running soon. Still waiting. I agree with Darrell that we need not
>> enforce standards but we do need them.
>>
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>>
>> venaurafarm <venaurafarm@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/26/2013 9:09 PM, spiralridgepermaculture@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> This is crazy. I pray that PINA can get up and running soon. I do not
>>>> like this at all.
>>>
>>> What is PINA?
>>>
>>> To make matters worse Larry Korn, editor of a Fukuoka book has created
>>> the beginnings of an online permaculture course with videos in
>>> collaboration with that regenerawhatsis scambabble group trying to
>>> use a kickstarter or indiegogo to fund an online permaculture course.
>>> The http://www.indiegogo.com/OpenPermaculture fundraiser has been taken
>>> offline. I guess they took the money and ran.
>>>
>>> After all this I can't imagine anyone complaining about enforcing
>>> standards for permaculture, teaching, consultng or otherwise using it to
>>> earn a livelihood.
>>>
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