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  • From: Geoffrey Derber <Geoffrey.Derber AT Trinity.Edu>
  • To: sm-sorcery AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [SM-Sorcery]Language wars...
  • Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 07:49:00 -0500

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I'd agree with you on perl. MySQL though I doubt it. I refuse to
install that right now. I see absolutely no need to have that on my
system. The less stuff I have to have running, the better. That and I
want to be capable of choosing what I have running at any given time. I
do not want MySQL running at all times on my system, and starting MySQL
every time I want to install or remove a program would be a pain.

Geoff

Aaron Brice wrote:
| Simplicity? Have you looked at the sorcery functions, at the many
| awkward for/cut/grep loops that would be one-line perl functions?
|
| As for a smaller base system, since it requires a gig of free hard drive
| space to compile many spells, what's another 50 megs in required
| binaries? I would guess that perl and mysql are already on 95% of the
| source mage installations already anyway..
|
| Aaron
|
| On Mon, 2002-10-07 at 23:53, Jens Laas wrote:
|
|>(02.10.07 kl.19:52) Aaron Brice skrev följande till Sergey A Lipnevich:
|>
|>
|>>On Mon, 2002-10-07 at 08:59, Sergey A Lipnevich wrote:
|>>
|>>>One of the things neglected about Sorcery is that it relies on the file
|>>>system as its primary storage, a kind of database. Spell name's primary
|>>
|>>Using the file system as a kind of database in my opinion is one of
|>>sorcery's weaknesses right now. Why not use a database as a kind of
|>>database? How much faster would finding dependencies be if you could
|>>just "select from dependency_table where depends_on='mozilla'"? I think
|>>it would be great to not only switch to Perl, but to switch to Perl,
|>>MySQL, and XML.
|>
|>That would be the same day I stopped using SMGL.
|>
|>If sourcemage started using a relational database it would become just
|>another bloated, overengineered piece of crap.
|>
|>If OpenSSL stopped needing perl for building I would be happy, as ssh is
|>the only thing keeping perl on my servers.
|>
|>What attracts me to sourcemage is:
|>- Simplicity (I can easily change things to my way without reading tons of
|> scripts, code, programs in a language I dont use, etc.)
|>- Low demands. I can have a very small base system. Only crap left is
|> perl.
|>- And of course all the source dist advantages we all love.
|>
|>Dont stray from the path of simplicity! There be dragons!
|>
|>Cheers!
|>Jens
|>
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