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  • From: Arwed von Merkatz <v.merkatz AT gmx.net>
  • To: sm-grimoire AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [SM-Grimoire] proliferation of *-cvs spells
  • Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:56:22 +0100

On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 02:53:50PM +1100, Hamish Greig wrote:
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> On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 05:58, Sergey A. Lipnevich wrote:
> > Hi All!
> >
> > I would like to express my objection to proliferation of *-cvs spells in
> > the grimoire. I don't like selecting between a normal and *-cvs spell,
> > instead I'd like to cast just one spell and be prompted whether I want
> > release or cvs version. *-cvs spells that are needed by other spells
> > must carry PROVIDES and incur additional maintenance. In my sections,
> > the only spells similar to *-cvs are php-dev and httpd-dev, which are
> > still maintained for historical reasons, and php-dev is probably long
> > overdue for deletion because nobody uses it, even I (we might need a
> > php5 spell, but not php-dev).
> > Another example is the GIMP spells, stable and devel. I'd like to have
> > just one gimp, and choose my options during the first cast. If I'm not
> > happy, I can "cast -r" and get a prompt again.
> > Above all, I think it's less work to write CONFIGURE/PREPARE once,
> > rewrite DETAILS/BUILD if necessary, and be done, rather than maintain
> > hordes of *-cvs spells.
> > I'd appreciate everyone's comment on this.
> > Thank you!
> >
> > Sergey.
>
> In general I agree.
> Often creating a -cvs spell to test the latest and greatest from some
> project
> is the quickest thing to do, but longterm leads to maintenance issues and
> grimoire bloating.
> I would much rather see a single spell with a configure choice than a
> second
> *-cvs spell that conflicts etc.
> I have only 4 or so cvs spells in games and plan to integrate them into the
> regular spell when more pressing bugs have been fixed.
> Some projects depends/requirements differ in their cvs version and these
> spells should be the exception to the general rule. A versioning issue like
> MPlayer-cvs working with only ffmpeg-cvs is probably the only valid reason
> to
> make a seperate -cvs spell
> The single proviso is that a *conbination* release/cvs spell must work out
> of
> the box for both choices.
> Hamish

I agree with that, and that's the reason why ffmpeg and ffmpeg-cvs will
stay seperate. As it is right now, casting httpd-dev fails, which is not
acceptable.

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Arwed v. Merkatz
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