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  • From: Vlad Glagolev <stealth AT tiberian.ru>
  • To: SM-Discuss <sm-discuss AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [SM-Discuss] Updates on beta web site
  • Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 23:17:32 +0300

On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 14:02:55 -0500
Sukneet Basuta <sukneet AT gmail.com> wrote:

> FYI, when viewing some pages on my phone the title overlays the top
> navigation. I.e. http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Grimoire/Release/Template has
> this issue. Not huge deal, just letting you know.

Thanks for feedback! Yeah, that requires some tuning.

And http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Grimoire/Release/Template/Source is even
longer! :-)

Now it should be fine: extended min-width for handheld screens and
lowered size of a font in page title.

> Also, personally I'd prefer the sponsors to be less prominent by having
> them on the bottom rather than on the right. But that's just my personal
> opinion.

Well, then the right side will look pretty empty and a bit
non-symmetric. This place should be filled with some syndication data,
like latest updates from our grimoire/sorcery/cauldron repositories,
commits, headers of latest news, etc.

Once I had some thoughts on bw variants of the logos (you can find them
by putting "-bw" postfix before the ".png" extension of every image),
but their existence/look/size/etc. is always a subject of discussion.
And once we move it to another hosting (i.e. ibiblio), the logos will
be changed if we desire so.

>
> Anyway, great job on the website!
> On Jan 23, 2015 11:28 AM, "Vlad Glagolev" <stealth AT tiberian.ru> wrote:
>
> > The final changes are the following:
> >
> > - reference for all Sorcery commands is complete[0]
> >
> > - more URLs unification[1]
> >
> > - authors URLs are now defined as standard personal pages, i.e.
> > "/~$username" -- it's defined by the site engine. So we can use them
> > later as personal pages we used before with user information and
> > questions like "GNOME or KDE?", etc. $username == a user in HTTP auth.
> > News pages contain authors as links to these personal pages -- both in
> > a pagination layout[2] and news pages themselves[3]. They will be
> > filled later on for/by those who wish so.
> >
> > - I converted all grimoire release pages (0.6-0.15) [4],[5] we had on an
> > old version of the website according to our new template[6]. News pages
> > were updated respectively[7],[8] to contain proper links to these
> > release pages. They are full of a very important information on the
> > process we had, including good QA, etc. -- this is what we should
> > definetely resurrect and continue doing when producing new releases.
> > Those are awesome examples of a good job.
> >
> > - Installation guide from yet another source[9] (so now we have 3 of
> > them!)[10] was transferred from the old places including remarks from
> > me and Pol (thanks!)
> >
> > - A great improvement was the Intro[11] page. It was extended *a lot*
> > with those information snips we have in the Tome repository (last
> > touched 7 years ago). It reveals our true aims and philosophical views
> > on a system that should be presented by the distro we're working on.
> > Pretty inspiring, heh.
> >
> > - Another *important* new page is a huge article about comparing us with
> > Gentoo[12]. This one was moved almost as-is with a couple of changes
> > including proper links and references to the current status of Sorcery.
> > It contains some version of the Linux distro timeline[13], along with a
> > reference to the site containing the most recent one.
> >
> > - there were several fixes to layout on different screens, including
> > dynamic width/height with CSS3, etc. Thanks to Pol for that.
> >
> > - several cosmetic fixes were made as well -- you will not notice
> > them probably :-)
> >
> > [0] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Sorcery/Commands
> > [1] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/+index
> > [2] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/News/2/
> > [3] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/News/iso-0-9-6-3/
> > [4] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Grimoire/stable/0.6
> > [5] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Grimoire/stable/0.12
> > [6] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Grimoire/Release/Template
> > [7] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/News/grimoire-0-6/
> > [8] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/News/grimoire-0-12/
> > [9] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Install/USB
> > [10] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Install
> > [11] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Intro
> > [12] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Comparison%20with%20Gentoo
> > [13] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/linux-timeline.png
> >
> > On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 01:12:51 +0300
> > Vlad Glagolev <stealth AT tiberian.ru> wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you,
> > >
> > > I've merged the changes and completed DETAILS reference[0].
> > >
> > > Also current status is:
> > >
> > > - There are 70 pages left to inspect/transfer
> > > - 50 of them are related to Cauldron and its development including Old
> > > section of Cauldron Team pages with outdated data
> > > - 20 other pages are about sorcery unit tests, coding conventions, etc.
> > > -- some of them are already on standards section[1] I've finished today
> > >
> > > Along with that I transfered your workflow example with quill and git
> > > with some corrections[2].
> > >
> > > Other interesting changes include:
> > >
> > > - update of our policy page: I added note about probst function which
> > > is used to generate/verify vote hashes[3], so new users will be able to
> > > know where to look -- huge thanks to Seth Woolley
> > > - primary docs page[4] has been heavily extended
> > > - detailed description for sorcery feature menu[5]
> > > - distributed compilation description and cross install guide[6]
> > > - INSTALL_ROOT and friends are easy to access now[7] -- thanks to
> > > Andrew Stitt
> > >
> > > And the final heavy change is about grimoire release process[8].
> > > I've re-arranged it a bit and created new template[9] layout which
> > > avoids duplicate data between releases (i.e. how-to-test was moved to
> > > release guide). Also the spell-list for testing is updated now -- it's
> > > based on the latest 0.61 chroot image excluding several extra spells
> > > not really needed for testing basesystem image (for example, those
> > > which add extra non-critical functionaly like ACPI daemon) totalling
> > > 111 spells. So now stable grimoire release template is more clear.
> > >
> > > Feel free to comment on the overall changes!
> > >
> > > [0] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Spell/Files/DETAILS
> > > [1] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Spell/Book#head-1-3
> > > [2] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Quill/Workflow
> > > [3] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Policy/Voting#verification
> > > [4] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Docs
> > > [5] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Sorcery/Feature%20menu
> > > [6] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Distributed%20compilation
> > > [7] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Sorcery/Roots
> > > [8] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Grimoire/Release
> > > [9] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Grimoire/Release/Template
> > >
> > > On Sat, 17 Jan 2015 13:57:23 +0100
> > > Jaka Kranjc <smgl AT lynxlynx.info> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hey,
> > > >
> > > > here are some notes:
> > > >
> > > > SOURCEn_HINTS
> > > > Special hints for summon, so sources can be downloaded without error.
> > Possible
> > > > values currently include:
> > > > - old_svn_compat (maintain compatibility with original SVN url format
> > — needed for
> > > > SOURCE_URLs that use http:// instead of svn://)
> > > > - no-check-certificates (disable cert checking for https transfers)
> > > >
> > > > ACTIVE_FTP
> > > > Set to "on" if the spell's sources are on ftp servers that are not
> > accessible in passive
> > > > FTP mode.
> > > >
> > > > DISTCC_HOSTS
> > > > DO NOT USE. Put this into the depreciated section. If for some reason
> > the spell can't
> > > > be compiled with the help of distcc (and it isn't just a make -jN
> > bug), use
> > > > DISABLE_DISTCC=yes to disable it.
> > > >
> > > > Please mention UP_TRIGGERS in TRIGGERS too. It probably obsoletes most
> > of the
> > > > latter's uses and has the benefit that it will work already on the
> > first run. Remember,
> > > > normal triggers need one pass to be saved first.
> > > >
> > > > http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Spell/Files/DEPENDS
> > > > force_depends forces ordering and that's what helps most. GCC could've
> > been
> > > > recompiled later in the queue, but this spell needs the latest before
> > its own build.
> > > >
> > > > http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Spell/Files/PREPARE
> > > > Please use a different example, VERSION should be static where
> > possible.
> > > >
> > > > http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Spell/Files/PRE_SUB_DEPENDS
> > > > All the examples could use a catch-all *) debug statement. They're
> > fine otherwise,
> > > > as case will return 0 when nothing matches.
> > > >
> > > > LP
> > > > --
> > > > To err is humour
> > > > www.gemrb.org
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Vlad Glagolev <stealth AT tiberian.ru>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Vlad Glagolev <stealth AT tiberian.ru>
> >
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Vlad Glagolev <stealth AT tiberian.ru>

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