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  • From: Sukneet Basuta <sukneet AT gmail.com>
  • To: SM-Discuss <sm-discuss AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [SM-Discuss] Updates on beta web site
  • Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 14:02:55 -0500

FYI, when viewing some pages on my phone the title overlays the top navigation. I.e. http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Grimoire/Release/Template has this issue. Not huge deal, just letting you know.

Also, personally I'd prefer the sponsors to be less prominent by having them on the bottom rather than on the right. But that's just my personal opinion.

Anyway, great job on the website!

On Jan 23, 2015 11:28 AM, "Vlad Glagolev" <stealth AT tiberian.ru> wrote:
The final changes are the following:

- reference for all Sorcery commands is complete[0]

- more URLs unification[1]

- authors URLs are now defined as standard personal pages, i.e.
"/~$username" -- it's defined by the site engine. So we can use them
later as personal pages we used before with user information and
questions like "GNOME or KDE?", etc. $username == a user in HTTP auth.
News pages contain authors as links to these personal pages -- both in
a pagination layout[2] and news pages themselves[3]. They will be
filled later on for/by those who wish so.

- I converted all grimoire release pages (0.6-0.15) [4],[5] we had on an
old version of the website according to our new template[6]. News pages
were updated respectively[7],[8] to contain proper links to these
release pages. They are full of a very important information on the
process we had, including good QA, etc. -- this is what we should
definetely resurrect and continue doing when producing new releases.
Those are awesome examples of a good job.

- Installation guide from yet another source[9] (so now we have 3 of
them!)[10] was transferred from the old places including remarks from
me and Pol (thanks!)

- A great improvement was the Intro[11] page. It was extended *a lot*
with those information snips we have in the Tome repository (last
touched 7 years ago). It reveals our true aims and philosophical views
on a system that should be presented by the distro we're working on.
Pretty inspiring, heh.

- Another *important* new page is a huge article about comparing us with
Gentoo[12]. This one was moved almost as-is with a couple of changes
including proper links and references to the current status of Sorcery.
It contains some version of the Linux distro timeline[13], along with a
reference to the site containing the most recent one.

- there were several fixes to layout on different screens, including
dynamic width/height with CSS3, etc. Thanks to Pol for that.

- several cosmetic fixes were made as well -- you will not notice
them probably :-)

[0] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Sorcery/Commands
[1] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/+index
[2] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/News/2/
[3] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/News/iso-0-9-6-3/
[4] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Grimoire/stable/0.6
[5] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Grimoire/stable/0.12
[6] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Grimoire/Release/Template
[7] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/News/grimoire-0-6/
[8] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/News/grimoire-0-12/
[9] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Install/USB
[10] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Install
[11] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Intro
[12] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Comparison%20with%20Gentoo
[13] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/linux-timeline.png

On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 01:12:51 +0300
Vlad Glagolev <stealth AT tiberian.ru> wrote:

> Thank you,
>
> I've merged the changes and completed DETAILS reference[0].
>
> Also current status is:
>
> - There are 70 pages left to inspect/transfer
> - 50 of them are related to Cauldron and its development including Old
> section of Cauldron Team pages with outdated data
> - 20 other pages are about sorcery unit tests, coding conventions, etc.
> -- some of them are already on standards section[1] I've finished today
>
> Along with that I transfered your workflow example with quill and git
> with some corrections[2].
>
> Other interesting changes include:
>
> - update of our policy page: I added note about probst function which
> is used to generate/verify vote hashes[3], so new users will be able to
> know where to look -- huge thanks to Seth Woolley
> - primary docs page[4] has been heavily extended
> - detailed description for sorcery feature menu[5]
> - distributed compilation description and cross install guide[6]
> - INSTALL_ROOT and friends are easy to access now[7] -- thanks to
> Andrew Stitt
>
> And the final heavy change is about grimoire release process[8].
> I've re-arranged it a bit and created new template[9] layout which
> avoids duplicate data between releases (i.e. how-to-test was moved to
> release guide). Also the spell-list for testing is updated now -- it's
> based on the latest 0.61 chroot image excluding several extra spells
> not really needed for testing basesystem image (for example, those
> which add extra non-critical functionaly like ACPI daemon) totalling
> 111 spells. So now stable grimoire release template is more clear.
>
> Feel free to comment on the overall changes!
>
> [0] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Spell/Files/DETAILS
> [1] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Spell/Book#head-1-3
> [2] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Quill/Workflow
> [3] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Policy/Voting#verification
> [4] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Docs
> [5] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Sorcery/Feature%20menu
> [6] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Distributed%20compilation
> [7] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Sorcery/Roots
> [8] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Grimoire/Release
> [9] http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Grimoire/Release/Template
>
> On Sat, 17 Jan 2015 13:57:23 +0100
> Jaka Kranjc <smgl AT lynxlynx.info> wrote:
>
> > Hey,
> >
> > here are some notes:
> >
> > SOURCEn_HINTS
> > Special hints for summon, so sources can be downloaded without error. Possible
> > values currently include:
> > - old_svn_compat (maintain compatibility with original SVN url format — needed for
> > SOURCE_URLs that use http:// instead of svn://)
> > - no-check-certificates (disable cert checking for https transfers)
> >
> > ACTIVE_FTP
> > Set to "on" if the spell's sources are on ftp servers that are not accessible in passive
> > FTP mode.
> >
> > DISTCC_HOSTS
> > DO NOT USE. Put this into the depreciated section. If for some reason the spell can't
> > be compiled with the help of distcc (and it isn't just a make -jN bug), use
> > DISABLE_DISTCC=yes to disable it.
> >
> > Please mention UP_TRIGGERS in TRIGGERS too. It probably obsoletes most of the
> > latter's uses and has the benefit that it will work already on the first run. Remember,
> > normal triggers need one pass to be saved first.
> >
> > http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Spell/Files/DEPENDS
> > force_depends forces ordering and that's what helps most. GCC could've been
> > recompiled later in the queue, but this spell needs the latest before its own build.
> >
> > http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Spell/Files/PREPARE
> > Please use a different example, VERSION should be static where possible.
> >
> > http://beta.sourcemage.ru/Spell/Files/PRE_SUB_DEPENDS
> > All the examples could use a catch-all *) debug statement. They're fine otherwise,
> > as case will return 0 when nothing matches.
> >
> > LP
> > --
> > To err is humour
> > www.gemrb.org
>
>
> --
> Vlad Glagolev <stealth AT tiberian.ru>


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