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[Andrew Stitt <afrayedknot AT t.armory.com>]

On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 07:45:01PM +0100, Jaka Kranjc wrote:
> On Sunday 28 of January 2007 19:34:22 Juuso Alasuutari wrote:
> > On Sunday 28 January 2007 20:21, Jaka Kranjc wrote:
> > <snip>
> >
> > > Since there are not that many bugs left on that list, I suggest our next
> > > stable goal is to rid basesystem completely of any kind of bugs (ok, all
> > > but the really farfetched ones) and keep it that way in the future. Bugs
> > > in the basesystem should have a priority anyway.
> >
> > Here's an idea I think Andrew expressed on IRC a few weeks ago. For the
> > next stable we should -- in addition to clearing basesystem of non-gating
> > bugs -- inspect all optional spells on the ISO with a thick comb. The
> > rationale is that we keep expanding the "circle of cleansed spells" for
> > each rollout, resulting in something super neat. :)
> Well yes, but basesystem hasn't been cleansed enough yet. The count of 
> other 
> spells is half the count of basesystem deps already.
> 

I think both points are valid and good ideas, let me speak to each
one separately.

Riding basesystem of all bugs, if I can paraphrase, translates to changing
defintion of "gating" in the context of basesystem; any bugs except
farfetched ones would be considered "gating". Extrapolating/generalizing,
that means progressively lowering our "gating defect bar" over time.
Is that what you mean?

On the topic of adding optional iso spells, I'm a proponent of
"Laissez-faire" style of picking the "extra" spells. People can and
should pick what matters to them. So Juuso can pick some optional spells
from the iso and encourage others to do so. However, I think we should
be very careful what spells are formally committed to for _every_
release. Right now the commitment is to basesystem. I think it would be
good to wait a few more cycles before formally committing to more. In other
words, make it your project to get those spells stablized, reducing the
resources needed to maintain them going forward. It doesnt have to
happen in one release either, just lower your gating bar over a few releases.

-Andrew