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["Jeremy Blosser (emrys)" <jblosser-smgl AT firinn.org>]

On Oct 18, Flavien Bridault [f.bridault AT fra.net] wrote:
> Le lundi 17 octobre 2005 ? 17:10 -0500, David Kowis a ?crit :
> > Jeremy Blosser (emrys) wrote:
> > > I didn't see answers to the below, and given that we just got a bug 
> > > report
> > > about hal not casting on a system that didn't have the cdrom group, I
> > > wanted to put them forward again.
> > > 
> > > On Oct 09, Jeremy Blosser (emrys) [jblosser-smgl AT firinn.org] wrote:
> > > 
> > >>On Oct 09, Flavien Bridault [f.bridault AT fra.net] wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>At last, I got gnome-volume-manager 1.5.3 working ! :)
> > >>>
> > >>>I will so make the needed changes, especially in udev. So before doing
> > >>>that, I want to be sure that everybody agrees.
> > >>>
> > >>>All block devices will belong to disk group, cdrom to cdrom group.
> > >>
> > >>The latest iso doesn't have a cdrom group by default.
> > Do we need a cdrom group on the ISO for this to work?
> > 
> Well, at least cdrom, floppy and disk. I thought there were default ?

No, as noted, the latest iso does not create the cdrom group.

> But maybe they were created by the ISO I used in those old times... ;-)
> Otherwise I need to create them in udev spell.

You need to at least check for it before using it.  We have a bug report in
IRC on this failing for one person so far.

> > >>>Haldaemon user will belong to these groups. We already have these
> > >>>groups, but afaik we don't use them by default. Sandalle suggested to 
> > >>>do
> > >>>that in a separated rules file, i.e. 70-hal.rules, but I don't see the
> > >>>interest of not doing that by default. I don't find any reason to not
> > >>>use disk and cdroms groups for the peripherals, but if you have one,
> > >>>please let me know, that's why I opened this thread. ;-)
> > >>
> > >>Will this affect only new systems or updating existing ones as well?
> > >>Modifying the ownership of existing devices doesn't sound wise.
> > 
> > So the spell will change the ownership of certain devices? Thats
> > probably not a Good Thing (tm)...
> No it changes the owner group, the owner is still root, i.e. here on my
> box :

If we're changing permissions on existing devices it's bad whether it's
user or group.  People could already have their access set up how they want
it using the groups already there.  But I'm still not sure if we're talking
about changing permissions on existing installs or just defaults for new
ones.

> [09:27:36]vlad@Gargamel ~ $ ll /dev/hda
> brw-rw----  1 root burning 3, 0 2005-10-18 10:56 /dev/hda
> [09:29:01]vlad@Gargamel ~ $ ll /dev/sda
> brw-rw----  1 root disk 8, 0 2005-10-18 10:56 /dev/sda

> All changes are in devel now, and also in test, except for gvm which is
> still waiting for the whole gnome 2.12 integration afaik.
> Feedback would be welcome. :-)

gnome 2.12 was integrated to test earlier this week.

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